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TibetanT 05-24-2014 10:37 AM

911SC door handle not working
 
Today, went to open my driver's door and heard a click which in turn made the trigger go limp and the door will not open from the outside handle. Inside handle still works.

Is this a BIG problem to fix, or do I need to purchase another working (outside) door handle.

Thank you in advance for any help you may provide!

Bob Kontak 05-24-2014 10:41 AM

I think there are a few threads. It's easy if not broken, maybe as easy as holding the inside door handle open while you depress the outside trigger.

Let me search real quick

Edit: I believe I was thinking about when then big clasp mechanism closes but not around the striker plate stud. You try to close the door and the door bounces back. You can pull on the inner door opener and the clasp can be moved into the correct open orientation.

Here is a decent thread where they talk about the "click" and have some links to fixes. I did not research in depth.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/707470-sc-door-handle-stuck.html

TibetanT 05-24-2014 11:55 AM

Hi Bob:

You are a gentlemen and a scholar on this board having a memory like an elephant when it comes to the 911SC. Your knowledge of the SC really is comforting when people like me get in a panic. Thanks for the thread link!

My search earlier somehow went down another road, but I did get a very good write-up for "removing the door panel" in the process; I will also need this at some pont Ha.

scotricker 05-24-2014 11:56 AM

I hate it when the trigger goes limp,

TibetanT 05-24-2014 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotricker (Post 8081581)
I hate it when the trigger goes limp,

Too funny, Scot. (Coffee is now being cleaned from the computer monitor as I type this.)

Appreciate the humor at-this-time in view of my panic.SmileWavy

I am getting older, however, and these things do happen. Going to run out to the garage and pray that Bob's idea is what happened and an easy fix.

Bob Kontak 05-24-2014 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TibetanT (Post 8081580)
I did get a very good write-up for "removing the door panel" in the process; I will also need this at some pont Ha.

Thanks for the kind words.

The door panel will take some time the first time through. I find a long handled allen wrench saves frustration when pulling the big door pulls off by the door release handle.

madmmac 05-24-2014 03:26 PM

Here you go. Instructions on the bottom.

Porsche 911 Door Handles

fred cook 05-24-2014 03:30 PM

Taking the door apart
 
Make sure that the window is in the up position before taking the door apart! Otherwise you will not be able to access the door handle mechanism. Good luck!

TibetanT 05-24-2014 03:42 PM

The door panel will take some time the first time through. I find a long handled allen wrench saves frustration when pulling the big door pulls off by the door release handle.

Good advise, Bob! Found I will have to take that beautiful leather panel off carefully on the way in. This panel hasn't been off since the factory. Oh boy.

TibetanT 05-24-2014 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmmac (Post 8081835)
Here you go. Instructions on the bottom.

Porsche 911 Door Handles

Wow, Excellent solution! Thanks for the link Mitch.SmileWavy

TibetanT 05-24-2014 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred cook (Post 8081841)
Make sure that the window is in the up position before taking the door apart! Otherwise you will not be able to access the door handle mechanism. Good luck!

Fred:

Good to hear this before I perform door surgery and mess things up. I don't need anymore problems especially the ones I would cause, since those seem to hurt the worst. How is the new engine in your car doing? Hope you have been having lots of fun with it and the "new" added power.

Thank you!SmileWavy

TibetanT 06-07-2014 12:58 PM

Hello again, and sorry for the delay; took my time taking the door panel off as not to damage anything in the process.

Also, I wanted to post a picture of what I found in order to help others, as well as myself in the future.
From what I can tell, it appears the door handle "push-rod" is not going far enough to unlock the door.

Here's a couple pictures of what I found inside the door:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1402174630.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1402174672.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1402174708.jpg

Jdub 06-07-2014 01:37 PM

This link might be useful.

If you are lucky you simply have a loose screw holding the arm with the post on it (that falls between the \/ on the mechanism). No matter what, you will have to remove the handle if that is the case. It is held by three nuts on studs screwed into the handle, and the studs often shear. Check the link above for info. on repair (easy) should that happen. Green or blue Loctite on the end of the screw to keep it in place,

Charlie V 06-07-2014 02:02 PM

Part of my reconditioning of the car several years back was to pull the door latching system out, clean it thoroughly and re-assemble with dots of grease on the appropriate moving parts. I recall adjusting one of the tabs from the outer door handle to work properly.

If I could also suggest while you are in there..............clean and grease the window guides. I also use silicon spray on the front "felt" window guide. Makes the window slide easier - less effort on the window motor.

I have always found it so relaxing to work on the car. They are properly engineered and can be easily repaired.

Have fun.

TibetanT 06-07-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdub (Post 8104746)
This link might be useful.

If you are lucky you simply have a loose screw holding the arm with the post on it (that falls between the \/ on the mechanism). No matter what, you will have to remove the handle if that is the case. It is held by three nuts on studs screwed into the handle, and the studs often shear. Check the link above for info. on repair (easy) should that happen. Green or blue Loctite on the end of the screw to keep it in place,

Thanks so much for the link!

Very useful.

TibetanT 06-07-2014 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie V (Post 8104793)
Part of my reconditioning of the car several years back was to pull the door latching system out, clean it thoroughly and re-assemble with dots of grease on the appropriate moving parts. I recall adjusting one of the tabs from the outer door handle to work properly.

If I could also suggest while you are in there..............clean and grease the window guides. I also use silicon spray on the front "felt" window guide. Makes the window slide easier - less effort on the window motor.

I have always found it so relaxing to work on the car. They are properly engineered and can be easily repaired.

Have fun.

Charlie:

I am having fun now. Thanks!

Good points made and consider it on my list of things to do, especially since my window motor was stressing before this.

g911 06-07-2014 05:33 PM

Might be the trigger failed. I had the same problem on my 76. At one time our host had a trigger repair kit. I went to get it and it was listed as NLA. I wound up buying a used handle. Be careful on disassembling the door handle. Keep a key in the tumbler, note the orientation of the locking lever. There is a little return spring behind the lever. Be careful not to lose it and note how it is seated.

TibetanT 06-07-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g911 (Post 8105074)
Might be the trigger failed. I had the same problem on my 76. At one time our host had a trigger repair kit. I went to get it and it was listed as NLA. I wound up buying a used handle. Be careful on disassembling the door handle. Keep a key in the tumbler, note the orientation of the locking lever. There is a little return spring behind the lever. Be careful not to lose it and note how it is seated.

Appreciate this information greatly! I had no idea there was a return spring behind the lever, or that the orientation mattered.
Thanks.


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