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SWB narrow body's with 16x7 fuchs? Pics?

I searched, not really finding many pics with 16x7's on Narrow body's.
I have the wheels already and am in the process of searching for a SWB 911/912.
Since I have them already I would like to use them since Deep sixes are so expensive now.
I assume they will fit, but what if any mods have to be done?
Any pics?


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I'd also like to know what fits. I am building out a 68 SWB and I have 3 deep sixes and 2 flat 6x15's from 73. I am thinking about deep sixes on the front and the flats on the back, finished with the dull rsr look and with 195 60's all around. Not sure if I can fit anything wider on back. Will a 205 50 15 fit on a 68 SWB? Another option I am considering is to put the rear flares of a 73 parts car I have on the SWB, sort of like Tilton's car. Any advice on opinions out there?
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I dont think it works...I think people run the 16x6 on the back. Maybe with a really low pro tire but it looks weird....I have seen it done but they may have flared it some, hopefully some one will chime in.
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I think the SWB's have spacers on the rear that can be removed, but I am not sure so that was why I was asking. I can start looking for deep 6's I guess.
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I am pretty sure you can't get 7 inch on the back of a SWB without a flare. The 911R had 7's but had flares.
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I've run 205/60's easily on SWB's on deep 6's. Offset on flat sixes is the same as deep 6's, the difference between the 2 is purely cosmetic.

This car has 225/50/15's on 7's on the rear, no flare!

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That blue car is a beauty.I had a 79 SC in the same color. I love it.

Wow, can't believe you can get a 225 on a no flare SWB. My project will have 2.4 MFI in the back so I think I will require decent contact patches to compensate for the power and the weak minded driver.

I think I will go with 205 60 on the flat sixes in the rear and 195's on the front on the deep sixes. Optionally I could sell the flats and buy one more deep six. I've got a little time before I get to that stage. Working on the tub right now.
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I've run 205/60's easily on SWB's on deep 6's.
That is 205/60 on 15" right? How about 16" would 205/60 still fit? I like the larger diameter for RPM / speed ratio and appearance but wonder if it would fit on a car that has stock suspension and is not lowered.
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Did the original poster not ask about 16in wheels????
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I'm in the same boat with the OP. I sold my LWB tub and picked up a SWB roller. I ended up keeping my 16s but it looks like a tight fit. Any pics with 7x16 fuchs in the rear? I don't have rear rotors or tires yet so I can't check at the moment.
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IMHO 16x6 Fuchs are not a good looking wheel for SWB non-flared cars. The flat face of that wheel is a real distraction from the look of those cars and I would really fight hard to get a 16x7 in there or something in 15". Just my $0.02
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Try this thread:
16x7's on back of 77 911s??

I just bought 16s from a 951 (944 Turbo) to put on my '77 narrow body middie. I plan on getting them on in the next couple of days and will post the pics
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Try this thread:
16x7's on back of 77 911s??

I just bought 16s from a 951 (944 Turbo) to put on my '77 narrow body middie. I plan on getting them on in the next couple of days and will post the pics
I am aware that they will fit Mid years and Long hoods. SWB is what we are looking for.
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Got it.
I didn't realize there was a difference on the narrow body cars. However, now that you mentioned it, it would make sense there would differences between the SWB and the LWB in the suspension geometry.
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i have 15x7's on the back of my 68 targa with 205/60 15 yoko's looks like they trimed the fenderwell a little
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SWB 911s do not have any flare on the front or rear compared to LWB narrow bodies - that's the challenge. See Eric's picture (he's running 7R in the back). A 16x7 can fit, but because of the added tire height compared to a 15x6, a 205 may be too tight. I also agree that the 16x7 just looks wrong on a SWB.
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My ‘68 has ’73 7x15 on all four with 185-70xVR15 XWX. I also use 911R 7x15 in the rear with deep 6x15 in front. With these I have used 185-70, 205-50 and 22.5x7.5x15 Goodyears.

I have used four 6x16 with 205-55x16. These are an easy fit. I have these on my 914-6 now. The 7x16 with 225-50x16 won’t fit my ‘68. It is possible the 7x16 would fit using the 205-55x16 but I suspect it will have outboard fender issues unless you use something like -3° or more camber. It might be worth a try to start with a lot of camber and see how close to proper camber you can get without touching.

The ’68 (only) has an original 7 mm spacer on the rear that can be removed. My late 7s are very close on the outside without the spacer. The 911R 7s are easiest to position but require long studs and spacers.

The front hub from ’65-’67 mounts the wheel about 7 mm inboard compared to ’68 and all later. You can use this to move the front inboard. Don't be afraid of some occasional contact between the tire and shock tube.

Close tire fit is also very dependent on suspension settings. High-side negative camber and stiff torsion bars let you get away with larger tire/wheel and close fit. Don’t be afraid of some occasional rubbing on the spring plate or inner fender. It is possible to remove the camber-toe adjusters after alignment and add a countersunk 6 mm (12.9) screw or two.

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Pics of a long nose with 16" Fuchs

I found this on the RM Auctions website. According to the description this car is wearing 16x7 wheels.

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Nice picture but that's not a SWB car.

Thanks for the input guys. I think I'll just play around with the rear camber settings and if it doesn't work out maybe I can trade someone for a set of 15's.
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6x16 front 6 1/2x16 rear

195/55/16 front on 6's and 205/55/16 rear on custom 6 1/2's with 5mm spacers. The rear fender lips are not rolled. I won't touch them. I tried 49mm offset custom 7x16's with 205's and couldn't make them fit. Maybe a 195 would have worked. I sold the 7 inch wheels I had made to someone with a LWB car. I might go 205/50/16 on the rear as it's a hair closer in size to the 195's than the 205/55/16's. The S/C and Carrera 7x16's have a 23mm offset the 7x15 911R wheel has a 49mm offset. The 911R wheel is offset more to the inside to fit the early cars. I have seen 7x15 Fuchs with a 23mm offset on a 912 front and rear but with 195's on the wheels.
If you paint the flats only on the 6x16's, you can come close to a 6x15 look. Do not run paint up the spoke or the spoke will look too short between it and the rim edge. I asked Al Reed to do it this way a couple years ago and at that time he had never been asked to do it that way. I have since seen a few done but they ran paint up the spoke like the 15's and there was too much black space between the spoke and the rim's edge.
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