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Amstaff 08-02-2014 04:42 PM

Backdating an update
 
I have a 1972 911 that was updated to a short hood wide body many years ago. No time soon but at some point I would like to restore it to original. Can I just bolt on a long hood or are there modifications that need to be made to swap out the hood?

timmy2 08-02-2014 05:08 PM

f they changed the front panel for the hood latch you will need to change it back.

Amstaff 08-02-2014 05:20 PM

Is it hard to tell if it has been changed?

jittsl 08-02-2014 06:26 PM

Pictures

timmy2 08-02-2014 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jittsl (Post 8195601)
Pictures


This^^^^^

Bear911 08-03-2014 03:11 AM

Updated widebody cars make for good backdated RSR look outlaws! The white car in my pelican garage was 69E that was hacked in the 80s to look like a 930. I kept the flares during the 're-date' as the engine was already changed out and originality wasn't an issue anymore.

Amstaff 08-03-2014 04:21 AM

Pix
 
Here is a picture of what it looks like now. It currently has a 2.7 in it but I don't think it is original. I am building a 3.0 for it now.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1407068478.jpg

Elombard 08-03-2014 04:26 AM

Take a pic of the inside of the frunk - where the hood latch is. Then we can tell how the conversion was done.

Amstaff 08-03-2014 04:43 AM

Here it is

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1407069689.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1407069812.jpg

jittsl 08-03-2014 05:35 AM

Tom, that is a bastardized "short nose" striker plate and front cross member. Someone has cut the original member that runs across the front out and replaced it with the later model's type. To properly revert the nose you will need to replace it. Good news is that you can buy the correct parts from Restoration Design.

On a couple of side notes - if it has a 2.7 (although it is possible that it may be a stroked 2.4- which was the original motor), it is very unlikely that the motor is original. What sort of fuel delivery system is being used?

Seems really odd that the car has two batteries up front arranged as they are. Any idea why? On this subject, if you are thinking that you want to revert the car to be a completely correct 72 "long nose" I think I'm right in saying you will also have to replace the original battery boxes which would have been cut out to accommodate the headlights.

Elombard 08-03-2014 05:45 AM

I am going to guess you are not going to go full correct approaching concourse 72 back date. I would just slap some FG long nose fenders on and one of the back date long FG hoods that connects to the short nose latch. Or you could even use a metal long nose hood and hold it down with rubber straps, kind of R gruppe. That car is probably to far gone to bring all the way back. But that jut means you can have more fun with it.

That 2 battery set up is very odd. 2 huge powerful batteries???

Amstaff 08-03-2014 07:59 AM

Not sure about the batteries. That's how it came. It was an auto cross car for a long time before I got it.

I believe the motor is a stroked 2.4. It has weber carbs on it.

With welded on rear flares and a ton of parts removed to lighten it I think it would be a real pain to change it back to original but at some point I am sure I would want to give it a shot.

jittsl 08-04-2014 05:19 PM

72s have become highly prized. You'll be surprised that, as long as you can weld or know someone who can, that anything is doable. Have fun.

sc_rufctr 08-04-2014 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amstaff (Post 8195839)
Here is a picture of what it looks like now. It currently has a 2.7 in it but I don't think it is original. I am building a 3.0 for it now.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1407068478.jpg

I don't know exactly why but I'm diggin it the way it is. ;)

With some new wheels that could look the business.

jittsl 08-04-2014 06:49 PM

I was thinking the same thing. How about a coat of shiny black paint? It's hard to tell how well or badly the conversion was done and how much work will be needed to make it really presentable but it does have an appeal just as it stands.

Amstaff 08-05-2014 03:02 AM

It looks like it was done correctly. The rear flares are metal and were butt welded. Not sure about the front until I can pull a fender.

I agree 100% on the wheels!

tobluforu 08-05-2014 03:11 AM

Buy rsr front fg flares, hood, bumper, etc, and then paint it. It would look great then, right now it looks like a Porsche I wanted in the 80's.

wayner 08-05-2014 07:28 AM

If I can do this, you can do yours :)

Pics of before and after.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1342016014.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376267092.jpg

futurefun 08-05-2014 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobluforu (Post 8198785)
Buy rsr front fg flares, hood, bumper, etc, and then paint it. It would look great then, right now it looks like a Porsche I wanted in the 80's.

for me with one color paint, yes

Amstaff 08-05-2014 02:35 PM

Wow Wayner, the finished product is nice!


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