I got the black harbor freight socket in there with a little angle work and then put on the Momo steering wheel on and and it has not been an issue since. I have had the wheel on and off several times now. It was a pain to get the black socket into the stock wheel but I only had to do it once.

Assuming you have a stock steering wheel, there should be no need to remove the plate. I had a bit if trouble with getting the right socket. I found that a short 1/2 inch drive 12 point 27mm Craftsman with a short wobble extension did the trick. I grabbed the wheel with one hand wrapped over the top and pulled the ratchet toward my belly with the other. That way if the ratchet slipped, I got a gut punch rather than a cracked windshield. Good luck.

The obvious orientation didn't work either.
The photos were to show that other angles also don't work.

I'm am lost, the socket goes in straight not sideways. From your last photo I cannot believe that that socket will not enter and remove the nut. Starting to believe your playing and if not I apologize and if I was near I would be more then happy to help
Ernie

Sugarwood,

FWIW, the socket that I believe I used for this exercise is a 1/2" drive, 12 pt tool that measures 1-13/32" idiameter, 1-5/8" tall.

When it's mounted to a 6" extension, you should be able to drop the socket through the opening in the steering wheel (it won't be lined up with the nut at that moment). Once it clears that metal frame, you should be able to center the socket over the nut, and the extension will line up vertically with the steering shaft. No wobblers or u-joints required.

At least that's how I remember it from three years ago, but of course senioritis is always lurking.

Good luck.

This thread cracks me up.

+1

A normal 27mm 1/2 socket with an extension and a breaker bar. That's whats needed.

Safe---- the way this thread is going I feel it's time to bring the saws all out

Ernie

I went to the garage and looked at mine. In my '85, with the same wheel this guy has, I used exactly the socket you're describing here. Bought it at Ace, so Craftsman.

No problem at all.

Anytime now, there'll be a "Show me your 27mm socket with extension while removing steering wheel!" picture threads. :rolleyes:

Kind of sad isn't it?

Three pages dedicated to removing one nut.

Well, none of the directions anywhere said anything about only using the very smallest 27mm socket you can buy.
Amazon issued a refund without even asking me to send the Tekton socket back.

I went to Sears and bought a 27mm Craftsman, and it went straight into the cavity.
With the right socket, I got the new bushing installed without much trouble.
The C-clip was stubborn until I used end cutting pliers to grab the clip.

The new Pelican bushing seems to have removed the slop !

Limited space.........
 

You might be able to use a 27mm crows foot socket. It is very short and drives from one side rather than the middle. Use a 6" extension and a breaker bar to loosen the nut. Once it is loose, you should be able to finish unscrewing it with your fingers.

I dunno, I just kind of looked at it and knew it wasn't going to take a deep socket.

Sometimes, the directions don't include the most obvious kinds of stuff.

Holy Crap...is this thing still going on?

I think there's a few things going on here:

1. Threads on larger nuts always garner more attention
2. It's the nature and intention of the forum to offer knowledge and encouragement

Everyone has to start somewhere. I started at this exact place and was eager to help out as evidenced by my expert response earlier. I have now moved on to radio delete plates and gauge removal...things I never dreamed of tackling.

I can't offer any useful contribution on cam timing, ignition, wheel off set, etc. But like others, I enjoy helping out in my own way. This thread has a lot of that, which is good to see.

It is a pretty long thread on one nut though....I'll give you that!

Mechanics is in large part - skill in adapting and acquiring. Adapting as in using the tools at your disposal, sometimes creatively, often times not, to perform one-off procedures. Acquiring as in buying and/or collecting several variations of the same tool. As illustrated in this thread, more than one variation of a simple 27mm socket was needed to remove a relatively simple steering wheel nut. Congrats, sugarwood, for your new collection of 27mm sockets. Join the crowd. We all have similar stories.

At some future time, if that particular size socket is misplaced or long-ago loaned out, an equivalent tool will avoid tearing apart your garage you just rearranged in search of it. One of the basic laws of nature is that small and large inanimate objects will often go missing, only to reappear days or weeks later in plain sight where you originally left it. Having two or more of everything truly helps avoid the anguish. :)

Thus, a seasoned tech or DIY will have several drawers containing variations of straight and Phillips screwdrivers, several variations of 10mm and 13mm wrenches, several socket sets, ratchets and extensions in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2" drive formats, umpteen hammers, pliers, etc. (we should discuss the minimum air tools needed in another thread).

In addition, the serious DIYer will accumulate a large number of "never-to-be-used" tools over one's lifetime just because they were included in a set, or they were particularly shiny and/or hi-tech, so you bought it. Not to worry. You'll eventually need one of them before you die. A friend of mine actually collects tools. He calls them "backups". You can too. At last count he has 20 backup corded and cordless drill motors. He's truly sick, like many of you here. You know who you are.

A basic tool kit suffices for most basic maintenance procedures. You know - the 72-piece, "all you'd ever need" tool kit from HF, Sams' Club or Walmart in it's own uber-organized plastic case. Acquiring an extra hammer then provides a valid reason to acquire a pro-type tool chest.

Missing that 13mm double square socket or need a special tool? Uh oh. Rather than beating yourself up, the workpiece, your kids or SO due to frustration, it's always (usually) more satisfying as well as more efficient to have the right tool for the task at hand. Unfortunately, there are lots of "right tools" for many tasks, all better and shinier than your original starter set. This is never a problem for a true car guy (aka tool hoarder) and a large tool storage box.... or several.

Sherwood

This is a joke, right? 3 pages and 59 posts on removal of the steering wheel nut on a 911. Safe in post #47 has it right. Read it. Do it. It's simple.

LOL, wasn't that simple.

My 27mm HF deep socket was too big.

Then I ordered a different 27mm short socket was also too big.

I borrowed a neighbor's 27mm, but that also didn't fit.

When everyone's saying "Just use 27mm", you start to think you're doing something wrong. But as 911pcars alluded to, 27mm sockets come in all shapes and sizes.

In the end, I ended up using an SAE 1 1/16" socket was in my Craftsman set the entire time!

Learning. It happens.

i HAD to see why there were 4 pages on removing a steering wheel nut.
i wish i had those 15 minutes back.

why couldnt that plate come off?

there was a thread on removing the nut on the rear axle. that one was very long too.

Porsche nuts. There is no substitute.

You can take that several ways.

Sherwood

ah. you too have been sucked into the vast hole of darkness.

If you see a socket with a matte surface it is almost certainly an impact socket.
Normal sockets have a polished plated surface. Really cheap sockets are also apt to have thicker walls. Craftsman, Snapon, Mac, Proto, ... If you recognize the name it will be thin walled with good steel.

As far as the using a "regular socket" on an impact wrench. You don't to it because they can break. But on a one off job like this, turn the air down and try it.
If it breaks then you go get another socket, a breaker bar, and a buddy to hold the wheel. (Or try the buddy method first with...)

Where are the pics and vid of this ???!!!

So post #19 made on the first page in 10/14 using available sockets would have worked if tried.

^^^ what he said!
I never use a deep well socket.

You got to love this forum! This thread is funny as hell, but within there are good suggestions from everyone and some crazy stuff from others. When I removed my original steering wheel, I had no issues at all. I wanted a deep socket 27mm but at the time had a regular size 27mm socket, got an extension and got the wheel out. Put the new sleeve for the wobble and installed the Momo steering wheel with the extension. I think I was done in less than half an hour. Anyway this is gold! :D

did i see Porsche nuts

i have one at home ;-)

ivan
http://img.pccreation.net/photos/201712071746348373.JPG

Leave it to Max to revive a thread just to bust somebody's balls.

I'm trying to remove the ashtray so I can get at the steering wheel nut, can anyone help?

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with the right amount of universal joint sockets...it can be done. :)

What happens to common sense?
 

This forum has been a great help to many of us DIY’ers. Unfortunately, it has also made some people to lose their common sense!!!!! Sugarwood insisted using the wrong thick wall 27-mm socket but I had successfully used a similar thick wall 27-mm socket from my impact set for removing the steering wheels of SC’s and Carrera 3.2’s gazilion times before.

You could use a thin or thick wall socket, 6-Point or 12- point socket as long as it clears the opening. The thick wall 6-point 27-mm socket shown in my picture was taken from a Sears Craftsman impact socket set with an OD of 38.2 mm. See pictures below:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1512672939.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1512672939.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1512672939.jpg

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The first thing that should had come up to OP’s mind was why were people able to use a 27-mm sockets and mine did not work? What is difference between my 27-mm socket and theirs? What is the largest OD of the socket I could use? All these simple questions could be readily thought by experienced people or have good imaginations. But some might think these as rocket science (?). I believe common sense will be more than sufficient to over come such obstacle. My two cents.

Tony

Guys, the thread is two years old. Pmax is justing bustin'...

^^^ an attempt, my last I promise, to show the guy that by his own standards below, the lack of pictures of how he solved this is totally unacceptable.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/979438-my-vintage-911-handles-like-dump-truck-compared-my-modern-daily-driver-17.html

Sugar, would you agree or is this a case where mere words would suffice ?

I like the pics of the sideways deep impact socket. Perhaps it was just ignorance, not knowing all that much about automotive tools. Glad the job got done. Now I'll go rest.

four freakin pages on this thread for how to insert a socket on a nut -----Unbelievable!

Almost as Unbelievable as criticizing a thread that's nearly 3 years old

It's not criticizing! It's observational sarcasm, Jerry Seinfeld has a few hundred Porsche cars in climate controlled warehouses because of the art form. I say get in on the sense of humor action boy, it'll make your life more enjoyable.