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Goodbye crusty old fusebox, hello Fred Cook!
So a quick search on "fusebox replacement" "ATO fusebox" or "Fred Cook" will turn up a bunch of threads on replacing the old fuse panel. So why a new thread? I thought I'd document the process a bit and show a few photos, in case this could help others considering the upgrade.
In my SC, the old fuse panel had become brittle, with wiring that had changed color from overheating in places. While doing the wiring for headlight relays, I decided to check tightness of the screw terminals, and the first one I turned broke off along with the corner of the panel. The fuse and holder flew off into my garage or frunk somewhere, never to be seen again. That was the last straw! Fellow Pelican Fred Cook makes a modern ATO fuse panel that mounts in the stock location, so after reading positive feedback from others I decided to order the panel and make the switch. Its a very, very well made part and Fred shipped to me just days after I ordered. The instructions were good as well, but be forewarned: if you have 10 thumbs and ADHD this may not be a job for you. A few notes:
The original panel in my SC. Doesn't look too bad but a couple fuse locations were fried or broken: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1423840477.jpg I made masking tape labels for every wire beforehand to save time and hassle. T is top and B is bottom: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1423842287.jpg Tedious labeling: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1423840640.jpg The crimp tool, you need one of these, as there are many connections and they need to be solid. I bought one from Knipex, made in Germany: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1423840705.jpg Crimping done: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1423840654.jpg The (almost) finished job. I took this pic before adding a couple fresh wires to run from the battery plus a little tidying up, but this is basically the end result: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1423840895.jpg So when all was said and done, I'm really pleased that I tackled this job. There were several "hotwired" connections in the wrong locations-- no fuse protection for any of the AC blowers for example, these were wired straight to 12V on the top side of the panel! Plus the front condenser fan motor was already melted into a blob. Fire waiting to happen. Along with correcting the scary stuff, I also added separate AC blower fuses inline, a fuse for the interior lights, the Jwest headlight relays I mentioned above, and a couple supplies of 12V from the battery (AC and headlights.) And the best part: everything works, and the car started right up. Woohoo! |
Looks great, but quite a chore!
For those who want to save 90% time, 90% cost and 90% crimp joints/connectors, see http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/772278-cheap-easy-ato-fuse-block-installation.html?highlight=cheap+ato |
Congrats! It's always great when you pass the "smoke test" on the first try. :D
It is a tedious job but very rewarding in the end. I did not know it until I went to replace mine but one of the old fuse panels was cracked and several of the fuses were loose. Could very well have been contributing to some of the "ghosts" I was chasing before I did the job. I also found some things that had been wired poorly or incorrectly over the years. I might've even done a couple of them. :) |
That looks awesome. Its on my list to do and clean up all the old wiring from all the accessories that I've deleted.
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Great job! Install looks nice and clean.
I really need to do this. I lost the shunt between two terminals that gets me switched power to the ignition box (CDI) and had to have it towed. I didn't know what was wrong at this time. I switched out the fuel pump relay and it ran fine again, only to not start after work the next day. I at least had access to a multimeter this time in the parking lot at work, and was able to get the diagnostic right. I made a jumper to get me home, then rewired the circuits going to the two broke terminals through blade fuses. It works, but obviously doesn't look clean. |
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Really nice work!
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Thanks for the write up. This is next on the to do list.
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very clean...great job!
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looks great, I just installed one in my car. It's a quality part and well worth the effort.
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Fantastic job! This is on my to do list if and when the car returns to me
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Yup, this is doing it right. :D
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Definitely on my list of upgrades. Thanks for posting.
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Not so fast........
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Fred,
You are too nice! Algernon's method gets the car converted to modern fuses, but your solution is just so much more professional! |
Nice job!
Timely thread, I am working on my Fred Cook fuse box replacement now. About time too, I have only had it for 2 or 3 years now. I actually already did a conversion 11 years ago but didn't like the way it came out. This time it will be better. |
I have Fred's panel and have just not got around to doing the job. I was trying to figure out if I needed some sort of pigtail connection from the current wires but it looks like you just crimped each group to a spade connected and coverd the with heat shrink. That looks to be an easier way to do it. I think you have inspired me to get this done.
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Why do you do this?
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Thanks for all the kind replies everyone! SmileWavy
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Evan did a great job, I'll say that. |
Nice Job!
Great job, Evan!
As Hannibal Smith of the "A Team" would say, "I love it when a plan comes together!" Hopefully this work will head off future electrical gremlins from your Porsche! |
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Doing this upgrade definitly saved me from several future electrical disasters! |
Could you give a little info on the tool you used for crimping your wires. I am also looking into doing this upgrade and am looking for the same tool.
Cheers Trevor |
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Its made by Knipex in Germany, and it worked well for me. I actually bought it as part of an assortment of crimp connectors that came in a nice storage case, but you can also just buy the tool. I found that after initially crimping a connector, it helped to reposition the connector in the tool and crimp it again. the tool is made such that it crimps two narrow bands on the connector end, and by repositioning it I could get a solid crimp over the whole end. You'll see what I mean when you try the tool for yourself. I see that Knipex also sells in the US and has lots of choices, I just bought the first one I could get that would do the job but browse here: Knipex crimping pliers ''PreciForce'' 97 52 36 Knipex crimp assortments Link to assortment kits, I got 97 90 21. I see thay also have a kit including a wire stripper, good to have if you don't have one already. Good luck! evan |
Knipex are really awesome tools. I love mine!
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That's a steep tool investment, but almost undoubtedly worth it.
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Looks excellent, nice work and congrats again to Fred.
This option was too expensive for me, but my fuse box was failing in little ways and causing issues repeatedly. I followed Algernon's plan and rebuilt mine on my own. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/810035-sick-time-update-my-sc-fusebox.html Either way, you can't go wrong getting rid of the old fuse box. Just save it in case someone down the line wants OEM parts more than they want easy care of their fuses. |
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