Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
molly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: seattle
Posts: 21
sticky brakes

I have a 84 Carrera that I have had for a long time,it has been relatively trouble free.I have removed the ac,backdated the heater,test pipe.It has been a commuter car for years.My current problem is the rear brakes seem to be dragging.Ihave checked the rear pads,moved the pucks back in and wheels spin free.after applying the brakes a couple pumps the wheels are dragging again.parking brake is free.Is it sticking calipers,malfunctioning residual pressure valve

Old 04-13-2015, 08:12 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Member 911 Anonymous
 
DRACO A5OG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Rancho Palos Verdes
Posts: 14,329
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to DRACO A5OG
It could be your Proportioning Valve in the frunk. but before that let's make sure your lines are not clogged.

This require you to disconnect the brake line at the caliper and check the flow. If you have the original rubber lines they could have corroded and swollen, causing a restriction as a result improper retraction of the pistons.

If flow is good then it may be time to service the calipers and make certain you use some sil-glide on the pistons after a thorough cleaning.

If that still does not do it then the proportioning valve could be the culprit.

Jim
__________________
'85 Carrera Targa
Factory Marble Grey/Black * Turbo Tail * 930 Steering Wheel* Sport Seats * 17" Fuchs (r) * 3.4 * 964 Cams * 915 * LSD * Factory SS * Turbo Tie Rods * Bilsteins * Euro Pre-Muff * SW Chip on 4K DME * NGK * Sienes GSK * Targa Body Brace
PCA/POC

Last edited by DRACO A5OG; 04-13-2015 at 08:36 AM..
Old 04-13-2015, 08:34 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
molly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: seattle
Posts: 21
I did bleed the rear brakes.I am starting to think there is built up grime and or rust on the pistons and or bores leading to incompleat relese.Nobody wants that!This time I not going to throw money at it till I replace the problem part.
Old 04-13-2015, 10:56 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Wayne, PA
Posts: 2,010
Time for a caliper rebuild, Molly. DOn't be bummed, the parts cost will be under thirty dollars, and it is really easy to do the rebuild. You can bang this out on a Saturday.
__________________
Christopher Mahalick
1984 911 Targa, 1974 Lotus Europa TCS
2001 BMW 530i(5spd!), Ducati 900 SS/SP
2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250, 2015 Yamaha R3
1965 Suzuki k15 Hillbilly, 1975 Suzuki GT750
Old 04-13-2015, 12:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Under the radar
 
Trackrash's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fortuna, CA. On the Lost Coast near the Emerald Triangle
Posts: 7,129
Garage
If your car still has the original brake hoses, I would change them no matter what. They can seem fine, fluid will squirt out, but still they will cause this problem.

Before you rebuild, you could bleed the fluid again. But when you do the bleeding, push the pistons back into the calipers when you have the bleeder valve open. Close the bleeder and pump up the brake pedal. Repeat.

Many times this will work to free up sticking pistons. While in there check to make sure the pads are free to move. Sometimes crud will make them stick.
__________________
Gordon
___________________________________
'71 911 Coupe 3,0L outlawed
#56 PCA Redwood Region, GGR, NASA, Speed SF
Trackrash's Garage :: My Garage
Old 04-13-2015, 03:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Home of the Whopper
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rocky Top, TN
Posts: 6,888
Garage
Usually I would agree to find the defective part then fix. But in this case, 4 new rubber brake lines and 4 caliper rebuild kits. Its time!!
__________________
1968 912 coupe
1971 911E Targa rustbucket
1972 914 1.7
1987 924S
Old 04-13-2015, 04:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Southwestern, CT
Posts: 411
+1 replace brake lines if original. I had the same type of issue on a 1984 BMW.
__________________
Wayne

1980 911 SC
1960 MGA 1600
Old 04-14-2015, 04:08 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 296
Garage
I had this happen to the front right corner. Caliper piston was not going back. Rebuild it and you'll be fine.
Old 04-14-2015, 05:56 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Diss Member
 
Quicksilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: SC - (Aiken in the 'other' SC)
Posts: 5,022
So your total list is:
- Bad caliper
- Bad portioning valve
- Bad rubber flex lines

I REALLY like testing things before replacing but the only way to test is to get a pressure gauge that will deal with brake pressures. Not an easy, cheap test...
__________________
- "Speed kills! How fast do you want to go?" - anon.
- "If More is better then Too Much is just right!!!" - Mad Mac Durgeloh

--
Wayne - 87 Carrera coupe -> The pooch.
Old 04-14-2015, 07:06 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Counterclockwise?
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Keswick, Ontario
Posts: 6,431
Garage
Rebuilding calipers and upgrading to SS lines is considered normal maintenance on these cars.
__________________
Rod
1986 Carrera
2001 996TT
A bunch of stuff with spark plugs
Old 04-14-2015, 08:22 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Diss Member
 
Quicksilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: SC - (Aiken in the 'other' SC)
Posts: 5,022
It occurs to me that the sticking brakes will generate heat. If you have an IR thermometer you can use that to see if it is creating more heat on one side.

It is really unlikely that you would get the same failure on both sides and even if you did you wouldn't get the same level of failure.

Does one side heat up when it is sticking? If so that side has a caliper or flex line issue. If both sides heat up it is going to be an issue back up where the rear circuit is a single line which leaves you with only the portioning valve and the MC. (And I can't see the MC retaining rear pressure without also retaining front pressure.)

__________________
- "Speed kills! How fast do you want to go?" - anon.
- "If More is better then Too Much is just right!!!" - Mad Mac Durgeloh

--
Wayne - 87 Carrera coupe -> The pooch.
Old 04-14-2015, 08:25 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:04 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.