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9magazine 11-08-2002 12:59 PM

Revised & Improved 9 Magazine Plus a Free Issue
 
Dear Porsche Fans:

I wanted to let everyone know the next issue of 9 Magazine should be at your local bookstore by the end of next week. Subscribers should also receive their copies around this same time.

We have hired on Marcus Huff as Editor-at-Large to help us fix grammar, spelling, and typo's at the magazine. This next issue we have also done a few face lifts to the editorial's giving it an updated look. Also, we have planned for several new departments for next year too.

Finally, we have a few extra hundred copies of the Winter 2002 issue we are giving away. Visit the web site and click on FREE SAMPLE ISSUE to get your copy today.

Again, look for the new 99% error-free issue with a red 2003 911 Turbo on the cover at your local bookstore, or right here at Pelican Parts Newsstand.


Brian Minson
Publisher
9 Magazine

juan ruiz 11-08-2002 02:28 PM

This is going to be Interesting................http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/lol2.gif

pbs911 11-08-2002 02:33 PM

I've never seen the mag but this topic seems interesting:
"Defusing Police Lasers: Installing a K40 system which legally defuses Police lasers, the system is even hidden in the car!"

boyo 11-08-2002 02:49 PM

You must mean "typos", not "typo's". It's plural, not possessive. ;)

-Boyo

9magazine 11-08-2002 02:52 PM

Paul,

The laser system is mounted either as a new licence plate frame or inside your front air dam. The unit then has both front and rear radar detectors. All this is fed to a single LED light, and a speaker mounted on your dash.

Very professional install, and no worries. We had it installed on a 2002 911 Carrera, and it works!

Brian Minson
9 Magazine
http://www.9magazine.com

nostatic 11-08-2002 03:53 PM

Punctuation aside, I'd spend some time and effort on your webpage. The background has GOT to go, and the rest is a bit haphazard.

And I put my money where my mouth is:

original:

http://www.9magazine.com

modified:

http://bender.annenberg.edu/cars/9mag/new.html

not perfect, no external style sheet, but what do you want for quick and nothin'?

Doug Zielke 11-08-2002 03:58 PM

What's with this continual spam from 9 Magazine?
Don't they get it....we don't want it!

Just take a look at the December/02 issue of Excellence.
Now *that* is a magazine worth pulping a damn tree for!

expat 11-08-2002 04:43 PM

Geez...lets all take a comunal breath and let the animosity go.

Its getting a little tiring reading every infringement the guys at this mag. make.

If you don't like it, don't read it. I think the points have been made enough in the past.

Rather than posting here, post your concerns to them directly.

I agree with Doug though - I don't think we need companies pushing their wares on us here. Using the board in this way opens up every business to promote itself here and I'm sure thats not the point of this board. So with all respect Brian, get your product on the stands and let the market forces decide your survival. This board is not a promotional/advertising strategy for the use of anyone with a product to sell.

ahhhhhhhhhhhh..........breathing out

Cheers
Mark:)

82SC 11-08-2002 05:03 PM

sheesh...

using expathk's philosophy...who cares??!!

If you don't want people pushing wares on you don't click the link!!! And if it is PelicanParts illegal the moderators will delete it...

I have never read the mag, but it is an pelicanparts part or a sponsor...or something...the banners have been put on the webpage...

I "demand excellence" from all the products I buy...especially cars and reading material...that is why I haven't purchased it...

let the man do his thing...he is being a budding publisher/entrepreneur.

can't people just give him constructive critisism...I've never heard him lash out or not take the insults in stride...

sheesh...people just primed to exhibit their superior grammer skills or cut people down...not that this applies to anyone in particular...but just the feeling I get from reading the 9mag threads

MJ

nostatic 11-08-2002 05:09 PM

well, not sure if I'm a target MJ, but I *was* trying to offer constructive criticism..and instead of just complaining, offering an actual example of things done (imho) better.

BUT, by posting here, he is opening himself up to whatever the community chooses to offer in response. You can't get the perk of free advertising without paying some sort of price...

dtw 11-08-2002 05:16 PM

Wouldn't be "diffusing" instead of "defusing" with respect to the police rader? :rolleyes:

Elombard 11-08-2002 05:53 PM

I like the mag. I am not ready to subscribe because I am only interested in 911 stuff. I guess it is my dream to publish my own car mag so I respect the guy alot. I write poorly so I dont even notice a typo or two. If I want perfect grammar I will read.... one of those books they made us read in highschool english : -))

tops911 11-08-2002 06:04 PM

I want to thank 9 Magazine for putting a picture of my 2 girls in the last issue. We were on our way from Fort Bragg to Colorado on vacation and made a small detour to Tweeks Funfest. It was hot and humid, so that lead to some complaining by them. Plus they got bored kind of quickly. Inadition it was just me and them, my wife could not join us, traviling with 2 teen age girls can be challanging. We have been looking foreward to the issue to see if they were lucky enough to get in the magazine.So I would like to thank 9 Magazine for giving us a momento of our trip to Colorado.
Thanks

Jim T 11-08-2002 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dtw
Wouldn't be "diffusing" instead of "defusing" with respect to the police rader? :rolleyes:
Actually, with respect to police radar, you'd have better luck with defusing it! (if you could).

Jim T 11-08-2002 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doug Zielke
Just take a look at the December/02 issue of Excellence.
Now *that* is a magazine worth pulping a damn tree for!

The December 2002 issue of Excellence magazine was very good.
-Primo Furentino Lanci
Perry Point, Maryland

(how many get that reference?!?!)

island911 11-08-2002 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dtw
Wouldn't be "diffusing" instead of "defusing" with respect to the police rader?
Quote:

Originally posted by Jim T
Actually, with respect to police radar, you'd have better luck with defusing it! (if you could).
ROFL

See, Now THIS is what has been lacking around here, ever since nostatic asked how's the weather in hell?

We'll see if this mag has anywhere near the same endurance.

I'm still laughing. . ."bu-bu-but, Iran it threw the spill checker to thymes, an it was Al spelt rite" http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/roflmao.gif

Glen 11-08-2002 07:35 PM

Had it with Excellence
 
I've let my subscription run out after 5 years. I'm tired of reading about $250,000 cars that I can't afford the wheels on. I want to see articles on 3.6 upgrades, brake upgrades, performanace upgrades, etc. The used car articles are word for word copys of previous years with valuation changes. (could just show the charts on a monthly basis and forget the rest). The only thing that's interesting or applicapable to my SC is Bruces columun. I find out more info and get my questions answered on this site.
Glen

Zeke 11-08-2002 07:48 PM

Back to 9mag. Brian, it might have helped if you spent some time with another publication before starting out on your own. If you did put in some time elsewhere, well, what can I say, maybe this isn't your line of work.

Bobboloo 11-08-2002 09:15 PM

Wow, tuff crowd.

Brian, You might want to consider maybe making your magazine more specialized. As it is you going straight up against Excellence and Porsche 911 World. Two top notch magazines that have had a lot more time to hone their skills. You'll be playing catchup for a long time.

What would make me want to buy an alternative to one of those magazines?

Glad you asked.

A magazine dedicated to early 911's would. It could have a regular section on restoration or preservation. It could have a section on mods like dropping in 3.2 or 3.6 in an early car. It could cover historic races. Feature articles on 911Rs , RSRs etc. As matter of fact, why not do a feature on Jack Olsens' car. He could even write it himself. (I heard it rumored that he has potential in that area).

I would love to read an interview with Gus at Pacific Fuel Injection. Maybe showing him go through the process of a rebuild of a MFI pump.

Or if you want to broaden the horizon then maybe go with vintage Porsches including 914's 356's etc.

You see where I'm going. You can't beat the big guys at their game so you should change the rules a little.

Don't let these guys get you down. It's easy to critisize. Much harder to do.

It's kind of like asking someone out of the blue if they want to help you bake a pie. They'll say, What? Why? But as soon as that smell starts coming out of the oven you'll be surprised at how many people will be there to "assist" you in taking it out of the oven.

Good Luck
Bobby

911pcars 11-08-2002 11:47 PM

Bobboloo,
I agree. I think I mentioned that to Brian when we chatted briefly at the Ventura Autofest a couple of months ago. Not sure there's room in the market for another direct competitor to Excellence. A more specific viewpoint might differentiate the magazine. There are more than several mags out there competing for the ricer crowd which are essentially hot rodded cars, many with bad taste. There's an interest for such a publication for Porsche owners - hot rod/race/special Porsches, that is, not bad taste. Maybe a "Race Car Engineering" or "Race Tech" for Porsches. That's the direction I'd like Excellence (or somebody) to go.

Let's give the mag a little slack and see what happens. He's trying to contribute something to the community - a fairly small niche community in the automotive world. If people want to see a better magazine, why not write an article for it? Many from this board have contributed valuable tech articles for Pelican. Why not contribute to this new magazine as well? Maybe Brian has a budget for this. I don't know.

I think the addition of a dedicated editor is a good move on his part.

Just MHO,
Sherwood Lee
http://members.rennlist.org/911pcars

claptrap 11-09-2002 01:10 AM

I admire Brian and Wayne and people like them for the "bet the farm" risk they take in starting their own business and the value they create. It's a risk most people won't take. It's easy to tear down, it's difficult to create.

I disagree that the field is crowded, in that I like to have a choice at the newsstand and I don't feel they are mutually exclusive. I take a few moments to browse the contents to see if there is an article that interests me, if there is then I'll buy it. Only if a magazine consistantly has articles that appeals to me will I subscribe. Only once in a while will I buy Excellence, as it rarely has articles that apply to my situation in that I don't have a late model Porsche and they seem to focus on that segment (but I do like the PartsHeaven ads). I will not buy a magazine just to help it succeed, it must have value to me.

I think Brian has an opportunity, if he strives for quality content, does some market research, focuses on a target audience that will support his effort, focuses on customer service and continuous improvement, and contracts a good proofreader, I believe he will succeed. Brian has already shown that he has the right attitude.

I think he also has a goldmine here with the people on this board and the DIY projects they embark on, whether it be an engine swap, painting a car, brake upgrades or whatever. I enjoy reading about projects and don't mind learning from other people's experiences.

Good luck Brian with your enterprise.

Scott.

speeder 11-09-2002 01:53 AM

I have no idea whether Mr. Brian "bet the farm" to start this publication, I do not know him and have not seen the magazine, but from the reviews here it sounds like a very non-professional effort. Proper use of standard English, (or French, Russian, etc., depending on the country), is the bare minimum standard for even a high school paper. This is not some effete high-brow criticism, even Hotrod magazine is written reasonably well.

This is constructive criticism; as someone with an educational background in journalism, it is the basics. And as to the suggestion that a focus on hotrodding early Porsches is the recipe for success, I'm not so sure. This is interesting to me, and many others on this board, but the only recipe for survival in the magazine business is attracting advertisers, lots of them, at rates that result from good circulation #s w/ a targeted audience. Anyone who thinks that this is possible by selling a few hundred issues to people on this board and the others like us is just whizzing up a rope, sorry to say. :(

9magazine 11-09-2002 06:36 AM

The magazine is doing very well despite the lack of an editor early on, and other issues.

The focus of the magazine is DIY projects for all Porsches! We have had projects on mostly 911's due to the fact this is what I currently own. We add the new models stories to spice things up without pages and pages of black & white photos of guys pulling off.

I'm not looking to compete against Excellence or Porsche 911 World. I'm looking at helping those who have or are looking at buying an older Porsche maintain and restore their car.

Visit your local Barnes & Noble, Booksamillion, Hastings, or other newsstand and pick up a copy. Look it over, get a feel for what we are trying to do. This next issue we have stomped out the typos, grammar and spelling errors. The next issue we begin to focus on having a DIY project or Q&A section for almost every Porsche model.

Advertising is a key part of all of this, with more advertisers we will be able to have more projects, better layouts, and over all a better product. However with the economy the way it is, many advertisers just don't have the extra budget to do so. We hope this will change. If you are an advertiser try us, we have a large first time Porsche owner readership who needs to know about your business!

Last, I enjoy reading the posts from this board. Good, bad, or other wise I use it to better the magazine. I have always invited people to email me and let me know what's on their minds!

Thanks to everyone who has supported the magazine, 2003 holds many new features for our readers and advertisers.

Brian Minson
9 Magazine
bminson@9magazine.com
http://www.9magazine.com

old_skul 11-09-2002 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by expathk
I agree with Doug though - I don't think we need companies pushing their wares on us here. Using the board in this way opens up every business to promote itself here and I'm sure thats not the point of this board.
Wrong.

This forum resides on Pelican Parts' server. Meaning, it's a way for PP to "push" its wares on us. If you want the true "open community" forum, head for the Rennlist. (Yawn.)

I'm actually pretty tired of people spouting off on how bad 9 Magazine is. To be honest, I've never seen someone take such a pounding (aside from the Cool Collar) and simply keep plugging away, trying to make improvements. I have respect for the guy even if the magazine *is* crappy. But I have to tell you, I'd rather read a crappy mag about Porsches than Better Homes & Gardens.

billh1963 11-09-2002 10:27 AM

I like the mag and I believe that it has potential. In fact, I just bought my second copy this morning! Other than the typo erros and just outright bad spelling [ferendheight(sic) instead of fahrenheit] which drive me crazy, I think it's going in the right direction.

I second the motion of many on this board that you can't (and shouldn't) compete with Excellence, et. al. In the early and mid-'80's I subscribed to a small magazine called Sport & GT or something like that. It had the kind of articles I liked. They spotlighted a nice original car every month and gave a history, described market availability, parts sources, etc. They also provided good tech articles and described problems and the solutions to real world car problems. They also talked quite a bit about restoration tips.

I have to admit that although I turn 40 next year and could afford to buy a new Porsche, it doesn't interest me. I have always been interested in the "older" cars and have also always been "value for money" oriented. I like tinkering on my "toys" (whether they be boat, car, or motorcycle). A magazine that caters to this line of thinking would interest me.

MMARSH 11-10-2002 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by old_skul



I'm actually pretty tired of people spouting off on how bad 9 Magazine is. To be honest, I've never seen someone take such a pounding (aside from the Cool Collar) and simply keep plugging away, trying to make improvements. I have respect for the guy even if the magazine *is* crappy. But I have to tell you, I'd rather read a crappy mag about Porsches than Better Homes & Gardens.

I agree. A lot of people would not even come back to this board after the pounding you've taken in the past, and those that would have come back probably would have been extremely defensive and rude about the criticism, however true it has been. I respect the way you've taken the criticism and I think it says alot about your character. I haven't seen the magazine yet, but I will give it a chance. Like old_skul said, keep plugging away. I wish you luck and future success.

I apologice for any gramer an speling mistakes in advanse:)

island911 11-10-2002 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by old_skul
. .. . To be honest, I've never seen someone take such a pounding (aside from the Cool Collar) and simply keep plugging away, trying to make improvements. . . .
Hmmm. . . While they may still be plugging away; I haven't seen the "improvements" made to the Cool Collar. :p

But as far as abuse goes, this is all too funny. In fact I'm pining for nostaics x-mas post where we find out his wife bought him something she read about in 9-Magazine, called a "Cruel-Collar."

:cool:

nostatic 11-10-2002 11:02 AM

ex-squeeze me? Aren't the terms wife and cruel-collar redundant?

-ducking to miss the frying pan

Wayne 962 11-10-2002 11:44 AM

The cool collar has proven itself many times to work, by the testaments of the people located on this board...

-Wayne


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