Ls1 conversion value. - Page 2

bbturbo · 06-13-2015, 09:27 AM

Quattrorunner, you may be able to find a turbo that needs rebuilt and save on the cost?

quattrorunner · quattrorunner's Garage

Well I'm looking at the newer borg products because that design is getting much chatter.
I love the BB garrets because they're light and fast spoolers but expen$ive. Looking at the BW s366 for a 3.6L engine. Thoughts? They're not too pricey.

bbturbo · 06-13-2015, 10:03 AM

I've always been a fan of the BW K27, but I am not the most knowledgeable on the 3.6 turbo set ups. I had one on a 944 years ago and it felt pretty good. I'll do some reading tonight and get back to you. I am sure someone will chime in between then as well.

LEAKYSEALS951 · 06-13-2015, 11:24 AM

Put a V8 in a 944 and you've made the world a better place.
Not so much with a 911.

Techno Duck · Techno Duck's Garage

Just my opinion as a long time 944 owner with a LS1 swapped 944 Turbo and an air cooled 911.

The chassis of the 944 is really what makes it special. The forgiving and predictable handling are the 'experience' There are plenty of engine choices from the 8v 2.5L n/a, 16v 2.5L n/a, 8v 2.5L turbo and 16v 3.0L turbo. All of the engines are good and offer different powerbands; however all of them are forgettable in the overall experience of driving the car. The powerband of the LSx engine in the 944 is incredible because the chassis handles it so well, the LSx swapped 944 comes close to the experience of the early 911 where you have a complete package; chassis and engine that makes for something very special to drive.

The 911 on the other hand; the engine is totally part of the driving experience and i think you loose part of the character of the 911 without it. While i could care less what the purist think of my 944, personally i wouldnt do it on an earlier 911. A 996 is a different story! I think you will definately alter the value of a 911 with an LS swap and i couldnt say it would be for the better. The 944 on the other hand will never reach the pricing segment of a 911 so i dont think there is much to loose on the value of one compared to a air cooled 911.

5.7L LS1 in my '88 944T. 380whp/360ft-lbs. It hauls ass

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bbturbo · 06-13-2015, 02:58 PM

Techno Duck- That is pretty cool. My 944T was 398 at the wheels with the original engine

Lot to be said about the base engines handling heavy boost. These cars with a lot of power are a BLAST to drive...and I would love to drive an LS 944 for kicks.

Techno Duck · Techno Duck's Garage

No doubt the 944T engine is fun; mine was making just under 300whp @ 15psi and it was more than enough power even on the track for me. But speaking from experience i think once you pass the 300whp point the reliability really takes a sharp downturn. The LS1 is a big dumb hunk of aluminum with a single over head cam and push rods. At 380whp its hardly breaking a sweat; 400-425whp is relatively easy to attain with the right cam, ported heads and FAST intake manifold. It will never be a high or quick rev engine like a n/a flat-6 but you dont need that when you have 200+ft-lbs of torque at 2k rpm

. One thing the 944T will never get over also is the turbo lag, this is part of the character of the car like a 930; but the instant (And predictable) torque of the LS1 with the 944 chassis is a great combination. Personally i think the 3.0L 16v engine from the S2 is a great combo. As much as i liked the turbo i guess at heart i am an all motor kind of guy.

I also like the look of shear confusion some have at the sound the car makes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1eHJgcfcfk

bbturbo · 06-13-2015, 03:34 PM

Techno- I was just giving you a hard time. You are 100% correct and for the track, the predictable power is a benefit. The raw power would be fun to whip around the track!

porsche930dude · porsche930dude's Garage

you would get Dq'd from R U faster than a redneck lol No I think you can get away with a swap in a 914 or 944 or 928 but in a 911 it just seems wrong. As for value youll definatly take a hit because you are no longer appealing to the Porsche crowd. The person thats going to buy will be just a car lover that likes to go fast and maybe likes the sportyness of a 911. but they wont go for paying that Porsche tax

quattrorunner · quattrorunner's Garage

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Originally Posted by porsche930dude

you would get Dq'd from R U faster than a redneck lol No I think you can get away with a swap in a 914 or 944 or 928 but in a 911 it just seems wrong. As for value youll definatly take a hit because you are no longer appealing to the Porsche crowd. The person thats going to buy will be just a car lover that likes to go fast and maybe likes the sportyness of a 911. but they wont go for paying that Porsche tax

I miss that show. Can't believe it's not on anymore.

Techno Duck that's a cool car. Some day I'll get one but doing it myself is a little cost prohibitive, at least having it done. Doing it ones self makes sense I guess.