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AC Hose Routing Question
Where do AC hoses to/from evaporator exit the smuggler box?
I am installing new barrier hoses and the old ones have long been gone. Also where can I buy barrier hose and fittings in the San Fernando Valley or even the Greater Los Angeles Area? TIA
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07-01-2015, 09:50 AM
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There is a hole on the driver side of the smuggler's box. One hose goes down the passenger side to the compressor and the other goes to the receiver drier on the driver's side. You have to take the belly pan off to feed the hoses through. There is at least one spot for a hose clamp near the cross-member.
I'm assuming left hand drive of course...
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07-01-2015, 09:59 AM
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Thanks Tim, that is exactly what I was looking for.
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07-01-2015, 10:15 AM
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I've been working on installing the new a/c system for a couple of hours a night for the last couple of days. Let me know if you need any pics along the way.
I have the new front condenser and the front/rear rear wheel well condensers installed now along with all of the electrical. Next step is to install all the new barrier hoses and receiver drier.
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07-01-2015, 10:28 AM
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I will be going a slightly different route and install a smart VOV instead of a VTX, use an accumulator/drier on the low side of the compressor instead of a receiver/drier on the intake of the evap.
I will try and take pictures to share. I'd like to see your pics as well...
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07-01-2015, 10:38 AM
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Otherwise you seem to be entering the twilight zone... |
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07-01-2015, 11:06 AM
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 The design is pretty simple and used in all modern car AC systems. Can you elaborate on your warning? Thx!
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07-01-2015, 12:25 PM
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Designing, or building a system from "scratch" use of a TXV would be the wiser move.. Given the known poor condensing capability of our cars allowing liquid refrigerant reaching the accumulator downstream of the evaporator does not seem a wise move. Seems sorta like the pro-cooler snake oil. VOV Part 1: Interview with VOV inventor, Dick Kozinski |
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07-01-2015, 04:27 PM
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Patent US5081847 - Variable flow orifice tube Richard C. Kozinski
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Original Assignee Nartron Corporation Note: Richard C. Kozinski has many related patents, some of which are assigned to General Motors Patent US5901750 - Variable flow orifice valve assembly - Google Patents I Patent US5081847 - Variable flow orifice tube - Google ... www.google.com/patents/US5081847Google A Variable Orifice Valve "VOV" IS NEW TECHNOLOGY AND FAR SUPERIOR; To a standard Orifice Valve and TO A TXV>>> = OLD TECHNOLOGY! It makes A/C systems with VOV's Colder in all types of driving situations, including stop and go, and when Idling POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE DESERT STATES SWEAR BY VOV VALVES AND HOW MUCH COLDER THEY ARE !!! Patent US4009592 - Multiple stage expansion valve for an ... https://www.google.com.ar/patents/US4009592 A multiple stage expansion valve for use in an air conditioning system for an ... valve device, said expansion device comprising multiple stage orifice valves defined ... US6289924, 24 Feb 2000, 18 Sep 2001, Richard C. Kozinski, Variable flow ... Patent US5901750 - Variable flow orifice valve assembly ... Patent US5901750 - Variable flow orifice valve assembly - Google Patents Inventors, Richard C. Kozinski ...... This invention relates generally to variable orifice fluid valve assemblies and more particularly to such variable orifice fluid ... Patent US4951478 - Variable capacity control valve ... Patent US4951478 - Variable capacity control valve - Google Patents In an automobile air conditioning system, an improved orifice type expansion ... US6305414, 28 Nov 2000, 23 Oct 2001, Richard C. Kozinski, Variable flow area ... Patent US6701745 - Air conditioning system utilizing at least ... Patent US6701745 - Air conditioning system utilizing at least one evaporator with continuous ... - Google Patents Original Assignee, Richard C. Kozinski ... rear unit refrigerant control valve is one of a fixed orifice tube, a variable orifice tube or a thermostatic expansion valve. Patent US5134860 - Variable area refrigerant expansion ... Patent US5134860 - Variable area refrigerant expansion device having a flexible orifice for ... - Google Patents Variable area refrigerant expansion device having a flexible orifice for heating mode .... This bulb provides the feedback to the valve of the temperature of the ..... US6305414, 28 Nov 2000, 23 Oct 2001, Richard C. Kozinski, Variable flow area ... Patente US4375228 - Two-stage flow restrictor valve ... Patente US4375228 - Two-stage flow restrictor valve assembly - Google Patentes A two-stage flow restrictor valve assembly is disclosed that is adapted to be inserted in ... effective orifice of predetermined size, an abutment engaged by said valve ..... US6289924, 24 Fev 2000, 18 Set 2001, Richard C. Kozinski, Variable flow ... Patent US3421542 - Flow regulator - Google Patente Patent US3421542 - Flow regulator - Google Patente Generally speaking, a flow regulator comprises a variable valve to throttle or control ... Flow rate Q through an orifice varies directly as the area of the orifice and the ..... 2001, Richard C. Kozinski, Variable flow area refrigerant expansion device. Patent US5170638 - Variable area refrigerant expansion ... Patent US5170638 - Variable area refrigerant expansion device - Google Patenter ... US5170638 - Variable area refrigerant expansion device Patent US5170638 - Variable .... The apparatus of claim 7, wherein said check valve comprises a planar seal ..... Another known fixed orifice expansion device is the orifice plate. ..... US6289924, 24. feb 2000, 18. sep 2001, Richard C. Kozinski, Variable flow area ... Patent US7674099 - Compressor with oil bypass - Google ... Patent US7674099 - Compressor with oil bypass - Google Patents The bypass oil path permits oil to be detoured around the motor in a tube that is ... The oil lubricated compressor as in claim 5 , wherein said variable orifice is ..... US6701745 *, 31 Jul 2002, 9 Mar 2004, Richard C. Kozinski, Air conditioning ... Patent US3421542 - Flow regulator - Google Patents Patent US3421542 - Flow regulator - Google Patents Generally speaking, a flow regulator comprises a variable valve to throttle or control ... Flow rate Q through an orifice varies directly as the area of the orifice and the ..... US6305414, 28 Nov 2000, 23 Oct 2001, Richard C. Kozinski, Variable flow Last edited by KelogGes; 07-20-2015 at 04:33 PM.. |
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07-20-2015, 04:01 PM
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WARNING you must use an accumulator/receiver tank if you use ORIFICE TUBE
Btw WARNING you must use an accumulator/receiver tank if you use any kind of orifice VALVE !!!
Or you will damage your a/c compressor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last edited by KelogGes; 07-20-2015 at 05:02 PM.. |
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07-20-2015, 04:55 PM
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 One of two hoses in place, both enter through the same opening
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07-20-2015, 07:37 PM
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Thank you Nathan. That's what I am doing tomorrow after work.
I just hate removing the bottom plate...  You know... doing/redoing!
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07-20-2015, 07:48 PM
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I had a hard time reinstalling the hex headed screw that secures the driver side sway bar. FYI. Had to use a jack to "persuade" it back into place. Otherwise it was pretty easy to remove the belly pan. Good luck!
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07-20-2015, 08:07 PM
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