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I've never understood the obsession to make your car look like something it isn't (it doesn't matter what you do, it'll never be an RS!) - turns it into a bit of a kit car imho.
Agree and I do have an all stock numbers matching 86 M491.
But sometimes at the track you might find you want more 911.

Mine will never be a real million dollar RSR, though it should be able to keep up with some of them.
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My updates on the same 911, before Long hoods became too valuable to modify.
Started as a very nice faux RS..

step 1 widebody longhood.

step 2 993 body.

step 3 74 RSR tribute to the 77 Sebring winner.



Now you can go tell your friends that your stock 911 got beat by a kit car.

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it's about what makes you happy. It's only money. I bought a '74 that was converted to 930 look because I planned on using it as a project car. I derive as much enjoyment from working on it in my garage as I do driving it. My chosen profession has me sitting in meetings and at my desk all day, my relaxation time is in the garage with the car on the lift tinkering with the suspension, or fixing little patches of rust, it's damn near therapeutic.
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Exactly--

I personally like the "sorta" backdates that still have the impact bumpers. H4s, Chrome highlights, maybe some Pallas hood lights, wide 15-inch wheels. Simple, effective..easily reversible.
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it's about what makes you happy. It's only money. I bought a '74 that was converted to 930 look because I planned on using it as a project car. I derive as much enjoyment from working on it in my garage as I do driving it. My chosen profession has me sitting in meetings and at my desk all day, my relaxation time is in the garage with the car on the lift tinkering with the suspension, or fixing little patches of rust, it's damn near therapeutic.
Bingo! I bought a '72T in '98, long before "longhood madness" began. I bought it to play with, not as an IRA. I've done everything on this car myself (except a respray). I have done many (blasphemous) modifications to it over the last 17 years, including swapping out the 2.4T MFI for a 3.2 Motronic. Every modification I have made has increased my overall enjoyment of owning and driving this car. And yes, these same modifications have undoubtedly decreased its resale value. Yes, it is "therapeutic". I'm far from done. I figure I got at least another 17 years of mods to do.

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I hate my kit car, I should never have turned my 73 into a 73 RSR. Now I can't stand going into my garage. That Ted guy is a bad influence and should be banned



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I hate my kit car, I should never have turned my 73 into a 73 RSR. Now I can't stand going into my garage. That Ted guy is a bad influence and should be banned



what a horrible kit car
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I hate my kit car, I should never have turned my 73 into a 73 RSR. Now I can't stand going into my garage. That Ted guy is a bad influence and should be banned
Tell your wife you need a spanking.
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Sometimes you buy an old 911 that's just begging to be backdated.


There's a Gulf Blue '74 911S hiding under all that 80s bling...
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If you are a rich guy, go ahead and back date or up date. It does not matter.
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Yup I agree. Build what you want. Unless youre car is all original and perfect than the next guy is probrobly going to build it the way he wants anyway. People usto say buy the newest car you can afford. People dont seem to say that anymore. Times change trends change cars can change too. Ted's car is a prime example of that. Its just metal and money.
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Ironically my 73 was once updated to the look of an SC sometime in its life...like Teds, my car has lived many lives, but only one of the transformations while in my hands

That update probably saved its life at some point. I know that my re-backdate did

( that spanking idea sounds interesting...��)
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If you are a rich guy, go ahead and back date or up date. It does not matter.
...versus poor people who have to stick with unmodified cars?

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This thread just inspired me to create a new signature
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Well put wayner.
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I hate my kit car, I should never have turned my 73 into a 73 RSR. Now I can't stand going into my garage. That Ted guy is a bad influence and should be banned



I have to agree it's a great looking car, but it ain't an RSR!
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it's about what makes you happy. It's only money. I bought a '74 that was converted to 930 look because I planned on using it as a project car. I derive as much enjoyment from working on it in my garage as I do driving it. My chosen profession has me sitting in meetings and at my desk all day, my relaxation time is in the garage with the car on the lift tinkering with the suspension, or fixing little patches of rust, it's damn near therapeutic.
True, whatever floats your boat.
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Agree and I do have an all stock numbers matching 86 M491.
But sometimes at the track you might find you want more 911.

Mine will never be a real million dollar RSR, though it should be able to keep up with some of them.
911 Shape Shifter | Issue 187 | Excellence

My updates on the same 911, before Long hoods became too valuable to modify.
Started as a very nice faux RS..

step 1 widebody longhood.

step 2 993 body.

step 3 74 RSR tribute to the 77 Sebring winner.



Now you can go tell your friends that your stock 911 got beat by a kit car.
You got me there! And I agree, for track cars it's acceptable
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A friend of mine has frequently quoted a stastistic: " Porsche is the most owner modified car of any make"

I never investigated the statistical accuracy of his claim, but it sure seems plausible.
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I have to agree it's a great looking car, but it ain't an RSR!
I hate to admit it, but yes...you are right. Although it is a real 73, it is not a real 1973 2.8 RSR, and besides, although the engine is the spiritual successor to the 2.8, the short stroke real carerra 3.0 motor it holds is just wrong for 73...and I also use it on the street (Sigh...I'd better give up and give this car to Ted, I'll never get it right)

I'm going to stick to writing signatures instead, and hire Matt as my editor...
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Backdate, schmackdate.

Do whatever you want to your car.

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