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RobWeiss 08-08-2018 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisbalich (Post 10134992)
how are you liking the EFI on an otherwise stock engine?

I love it. It’s very responsive, runs smooth, and they sound cool. The funny thing is I don’t have a frame of reference for a stock 911. The car wasn’t running when I got it, so my first drive was with the ITB’s. And, this is my first air cooled 911...again, no reference, but I’m not complaining!

chrisbalich 08-09-2018 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RobWeiss (Post 10135664)
I love it. It’s very responsive, runs smooth, and they sound cool. The funny thing is I don’t have a frame of reference for a stock 911. The car wasn’t running when I got it, so my first drive was with the ITB’s. And, this is my first air cooled 911...again, no reference, but I’m not complaining!

Good to hear. I’m dealing with some broken head studs on my own resurrection project and I’m on the fence between a mild build on the engine or just repairing it and driving it much sooner.
Thanks for the feedback!

jlex 08-09-2018 05:11 AM

Hope you didn't sell the '67 Beetle. Driving my '70 bug keeps things interesting...

VWLoosenuts 08-09-2018 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RobWeiss (Post 8859823)

Here's a pic of my VW's engine compartment so, you can imagine it pains me to see this mess!
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...k/DSC_1637.jpg


I fully understand and appreciate this x1000

My VW motors

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533823547.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533823547.jpg

jlex 08-09-2018 06:33 AM

Good looking engines....
Puts the 1600 in my '70 to shame.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533828360.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533828360.JPG

pampadori 08-09-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RobWeiss (Post 10135659)
Thanks for the information! That could explain the dyno results and ragged lines at the upper rpm range.

Dyno you say? let's see the graph!

RobWeiss 08-09-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jlex (Post 10135907)
Hope you didn't sell the '67 Beetle. Driving my '70 bug keeps things interesting...

Yep, it went to a great owner in SoCal. I need a bigger garage, but don’t we all?

RobWeiss 08-09-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pampadori (Post 10136243)
Dyno you say? let's see the graph!

Ha! I couldn’t slip that past....here you go. You can see the ragged lines in the upper rpm range.

Also, someone with Porsche/ITB/Megasquirt experience is looking over the tune. He feels it should be making considerably more hp and offered to take a look.

It’s not a race car, but I don’t want to leave a lot on the table either. Any feedback is welcome!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533857033.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533857033.jpg

Harpo 08-09-2018 03:42 PM

Huge improvement on your engine bay. The crank pully has me puzzled though. Will you be adding AC?

David

RobWeiss 08-09-2018 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Harpo (Post 10136648)
Huge improvement on your engine bay. The crank pully has me puzzled though. Will you be adding AC?

David

That’s the plan and I actually thought ahead when I ordered the pulley.

pampadori 08-10-2018 06:36 AM

I have a small port 3.0 motor with Triumph ITBs. When I had factory heat exchangers I dynoed similar peak hp numbers. However, my midrange was a bit fatter on torque. I was 170-175 ft lbs from 4200 - 5200 rpm.
I think you can really gain some torque by playing with the timing maps. There are some maps to compare here: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/975423-official-efi-ignition-map-sharing-thread.html

my BBE heat exchangers really made a positive difference above 5500 RPM. I need to visit the dyno again to find out how much a difference but its enough to feel it from the drivers seat. Besides SSI's what else do you have? cams or porting?

RobWeiss 08-10-2018 06:34 PM

Unfortunately, I don’t know much about the motor, except that it was “rebuilt” at some point. It’s a ‘78 block with large port heads, headers, B&B muffler, and came with Weber carbs. Someone kind of hot rodded it about 10 years ago, based on my calculations. I knew the previous owner and actually test drove it for him when he purchased it. The owner prior to him had the engine work done, but I don’t have any documentation.

Thanks for the link, I’ll certainly compare to my tune and look for some obvious differences.


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