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ninelevenick 11-23-2015 02:26 PM

You check all electrical connections? Did you check to make sure the green wire by the distributor is connected? Just throwing ideas out there.

Sicklyscott 11-23-2015 02:51 PM

Dumb question but have you verified the wires are on the correct cylinders?

avsarinana 11-23-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ninelevenick (Post 8889344)
You check all electrical connections? Did you check to make sure the green wire by the distributor is connected? Just throwing ideas out there.

Green wire is connected.

avsarinana 11-23-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sicklyscott (Post 8889368)
Dumb question but have you verified the wires are on the correct cylinders?

The spark plug wires that connect to the spark plugs, will not reach any other destination.. Another words, number two spark plug wire will not reach number 3 cylinder and number one wont reach number two cylinder, same applies for 4,5,and 6.. Its virtually impossible, to cross wires that belong on each spark plug.

On the distributor side, I verified the firing order. Starting with number 1 cylinder which points at the small groove on distributor body, so my rotor then spins ccw... the next would be 6-2-4-3-5 in the firing order . That is all correct.

The vacuum hoses are all connected, there all in the center of the motor, none were in my way.. The only wire I disconnected was the wire that goes to my ac compressor.. I didn't even put the compressor back on the car.

Thanks, I appreciate the help...tomorrow is my last day at work, off for thanksgiving holiday, and I want to drive my car... I honestly feel like an idiot.. But, tend to see life as a learning experience.

Life is good.

turbo owner 11-23-2015 05:57 PM

Do a compression test, that may indicate your issue. No compression, back to the valves.

wayne robson 11-23-2015 10:31 PM

This graph may help
 
This may help,found it here somewhere while back
regards Wayne.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1448350255.jpg

jlex 11-24-2015 03:36 AM

I haven't checked my valves without draining the oil, but I'm thinking it's not totally necessary; you may lose a bit but not much. Anyone else had the valve covers off without draining the oil?

mreid 11-24-2015 05:05 AM

Yes, just Jack up one side if the car and adjust that side, then the other. You rotate the engine more, but not a big deal.

Drisump 11-24-2015 05:24 AM

Without actually being there it's impossible to offer much more. My approach has always been if I've been under the hood and something is now amiss vs before the work....the events are connected. It's possible a new problem has occurred out of the blue, but not likely. I can't imagine that the valves are set so tight that they are always open....it would take some effort to get the operation that far wrong. If you can assure us that the leads are all heading to the right place it seems to leave the connections of the leads to either the distributor or plugs. Good luck

JSV798 11-24-2015 07:26 AM

Here's something basic you don't seemed to have tried yet: pull the fuel pump fuse (so you don't flood the cylinders), then pull a plug lead off and put in a known good plug. Place plug on engine somewhere and get someone to crank the engine. Check for spark. Repeat for other 5 plug leads. Chances are one or more plugs not firing. If all are firing check for fuel.

kuba_kuba 11-24-2015 12:46 PM

What about the wires not seating on the plugs? When I did my valves the first time one of the plug wires wouldn't firmly connect to the plug (I think it was #5). Engine ran as you describe. Did you get a positive "click" when putting the wires back on the plugs?

theiceman 11-24-2015 01:02 PM

show us a crappy cell phone pic of what you think is position number one-six on your distributor .. just for giggles,

JJ 911SC 11-24-2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kuba_kuba (Post 8890604)
What about the wires not seating on the plugs? When I did my valves the first time one of the plug wires wouldn't firmly connect to the plug (I think it was #5). Engine ran as you describe. Did you get a positive "click" when putting the wires back on the plugs?

If that is the problem it should have been solve back at post 14, maybe he miss it ;)

pmax 11-24-2015 02:52 PM

Perhaps he turned the engine backwards.

zedsn 11-24-2015 02:55 PM

I thought about the backwards thing as well.

avsarinana 11-29-2015 06:10 PM

Well, I re-grouped and dug back into re-checking and re-adjusting my valves...I had a couple a little too tight..Checked and re-adjusted all of them... Car fired right up and ran good. The valves were the problem.

Now, I have a new problem. Now it sounds like I have a couple a little to loose. I can hear some ticking valve noise... Runs good though.

Looks like I may have to re-adjust again Tighter... what's the repercussions of running them loose, and with a little ticking sound..It drives me crazy.. I think my valves were good before I began to adjust them. The reason I set out to adjust them, was because I didn't know when they were last adjusted.

Life is Good. Thanks guys..the info and help is appreciated.

Hnichols 11-29-2015 06:49 PM

It's probably OK -- "a little ticking sound" sounds like it's supposed to sound. From what I've read, valves that are little loose are not a problem. Over-tight valves, on the other hand, are -- in retrospect, I think you were wise not to have run the motor until it got hot (tight exhaust valves that do not seat properly can overheat).

So maybe just enjoy the car and take a break. If you're really concerned you can post an audio of the car running.

avsarinana 11-29-2015 07:39 PM

The ticking noise is very Subtle... not loud. The car runs beautiful, as I reflected.

turbo owner 11-29-2015 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by avsarinana (Post 8897013)
The ticking noise is very Subtle... not loud. The car runs beautiful, as I reflected.

Leave it alone

ant7 11-29-2015 11:57 PM

Thank goodness for that! :)
Glad you got there in the end.
A.


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