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TWJ 12-03-2015 05:58 PM

Question for the Engine Gurus
 
Is this repairable (see pic below) in any way or is this engine toast? I'm sure it also depends on what's going on inside but is the crack repairable?

It's a '70 "E" engine, worth saving?

Thanks!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1449197887.jpg

TWJ 12-03-2015 07:08 PM

Unfortuately I have no idea how this happened. This is a garage find car, an early '66 911 with this (non-matching) '70 "E" engine. I'm trying to figure out if this engine is worth saving...I'm thinking it is but looking to understand the best method.

For the welding...any recommedations on someone who can do this correctly?

Dan J 12-03-2015 07:15 PM

Toss it. Since it's not original it's not worth fixing

47silver 12-03-2015 07:19 PM

welder
 
a very good tig welder who knows magnesium should be able to do this weld.
it will need to be taken apart.
check out some videos on welding tips and tricks or mr. tig to get an idea how they weld magnesium.

Quicksilver 12-03-2015 07:29 PM

If it was to be welded and you were able to trust that it was structurally sound it would still need to be machined because it is in no way shape or form going to be a straight crankcase. That is kind of an important detail.

In other words: Toss and replace with good.

47silver 12-03-2015 07:33 PM

pick up another case if possible but do not throw this one away, someone someday will want it.

mattC2993 12-03-2015 07:37 PM

Out of curiosity what is the engine#? Ollie's in Havasu City might be able to fix it. They weld repair aluminum Porsche cases anyway. I would guess $1500-$2500 by the time they remachine it so likely not worth it as discussed. You can call and get a ballpark number.

TWJ 12-03-2015 07:52 PM

The engine number is: 6201531

Is Ollie's in California?

mattC2993 12-04-2015 05:28 AM

Home Page Its in Arizona but not far from California

I'm looking for 6201166

BK911 12-04-2015 06:14 AM

Next time somebody asks if its OK to jack the car up by the sump plate.....

CCM911 12-04-2015 07:34 AM

I think it was caused by crank flex.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 8903405)
Next time somebody asks if its OK to jack the car up by the sump plate.....


Lapkritis 12-04-2015 07:57 AM

Could also see this happening from catching the sump plate on something immovable while the vehicle is in motion.

Steve@Rennsport 12-04-2015 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lapkritis (Post 8903578)
Could also see this happening from catching the sump plate on something immovable while the vehicle is in motion.

Thats what happened here.

tharbert 12-07-2015 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 47silver (Post 8903002)
... do not throw this one away, someone someday will want it.

Unfortunately, this may be true. More and more marginal starting points will become the norm as these engines get older.

BTW, Ollies can indeed weld Mg. They stitched some Mg welds on my case presumably over potential thin spots near #3 piston head studs:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1393518243.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1393518264.jpg

jm993rs 12-07-2015 07:55 AM

And is possible sure repair this first pic ??


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