Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 617
Oil pressure gauge proper behavior?

I have an '86 3.2. The oil pressure gauge is essentially always pegged. I assume it's not supposed to be and should vary with RPMs. Any thoughts? Oil pressure sender out of whack?

__________________
1986 911 Carrera Coupe
2016 VW Golf R
2008 Toyota Highlander (given to kid)
2021 Kia Telluride
2020 BMW R1250RS
Old 12-30-2015, 04:56 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Oh Haha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan
Posts: 14,093
Yes, the pressure should vary with RPMs, typically 10 pounds per 1000 RPM.

Check the wire connection at the sender. It may just need to be cleaned up to get a good signal.
__________________
1981 911SC ROW SOLD - JULY 2015
Pacific Blue

Wayne
Old 12-30-2015, 05:34 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 617
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh Haha View Post
Yes, the pressure should vary with RPMs, typically 10 pounds per 1000 RPM.

Check the wire connection at the sender. It may just need to be cleaned up to get a good signal.
Thanks. I'll give that a look.
__________________
1986 911 Carrera Coupe
2016 VW Golf R
2008 Toyota Highlander (given to kid)
2021 Kia Telluride
2020 BMW R1250RS
Old 12-30-2015, 05:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 313
Garage
From my original manual. the oil level gauge indicates the amount of oil in the oil tank. If the needle is in the white range while on level ground with engine at idle speed and the oil at operating temperature, there is sufficient oil in the tank. the oil level cannot be determined while driving and slight movement of the indicator needle is normal. ( this is the gauge with the fuel gauge.) The Druck pressure opposite of the oil temperature gauge says that you should have at least 3.5 bar at 5000 rpm of the motor. hope this helps.
Old 12-30-2015, 06:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: GA
Posts: 919
If it's pegged I think that suggests a grounding issue. It's either the wiring or the sender itself contained in the oil tank behind the passenger side rear wheel.
Old 12-30-2015, 06:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 617
Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzerr View Post
If it's pegged I think that suggests a grounding issue. It's either the wiring or the sender itself contained in the oil tank behind the passenger side rear wheel.
Well, I'm talking about the pressure gauge, not the oil level gauge which works well.

I'm going to check the grounding on the oil pressure sender. Thanks.

I should also note that pressure doesn't go up when the ignition is on, only when the engine is started. I'm not sure that's consistent with a wiring problem or not.
__________________
1986 911 Carrera Coupe
2016 VW Golf R
2008 Toyota Highlander (given to kid)
2021 Kia Telluride
2020 BMW R1250RS

Last edited by PabloX; 12-31-2015 at 04:30 AM..
Old 12-31-2015, 04:22 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
GeorgeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 925
Garage
I've found 911 oil pressure senders are almost consumables. Barring a wiring issue, if it's the original sender, it's probably time for a new one.

I'll also pass on that some of the cheaper aftermarket units aren't worth the savings.
__________________
George M
'89 Carrera 3.2
'91 928GT
'76 914
'18 Macan GTS
Old 12-31-2015, 05:55 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: GA
Posts: 919
Apologies I should have paid more attention when I read that! I think it's still a grounding issue that causes that (either constantly grounded or no ground at all).

Research before you attempt to remove that sender. You can do major damage to your case if you don't approach it in the right manner.
Old 12-31-2015, 01:39 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 617
Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzerr View Post
Apologies I should have paid more attention when I read that! I think it's still a grounding issue that causes that (either constantly grounded or no ground at all).

Research before you attempt to remove that sender. You can do major damage to your case if you don't approach it in the right manner.
No problem. Do you think a grounding issue would cause what I described above about the difference between ignition on and engine running?

I have a leak around the sender so I think I'm just going to replace the whole thing (and clean the contacts while I'm at it) like George recommended.
__________________
1986 911 Carrera Coupe
2016 VW Golf R
2008 Toyota Highlander (given to kid)
2021 Kia Telluride
2020 BMW R1250RS

Last edited by PabloX; 12-31-2015 at 02:17 PM..
Old 12-31-2015, 02:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Senior Advisor
 
James Brown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Bellingham, WA
Posts: 5,479
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to James Brown
changing that switch can be nerve racking due to several factors. don't shear off the big banjo bolt that holds the angle bracket to the oil gallery. Check all the connections and clean them with scotchbrite. Even on the dash gage side. sounds like a sender.
__________________
08 Cayenne Turbo
Old 12-31-2015, 03:04 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: GA
Posts: 919
Yes, when you turn the key to on you are powering up the circuit for the sender that drives the gauge. The needle will jump up a bit from it's stop to the "0" mark.

It measures oil pressure so the normal behavior is as you crank the motor the oil pressure will build up and the needle will start to rise (and the idiot light will go out) up to the 1 and above mark. When the motor fires you should see the needle hovering around between the 1 and 2 mark (I assume it's bar). When you rev the engine it approximately matches the rpm/1000 like Oh Ha Ha said. When you are cruising on the freeway you should be seeing the needle around the 4 mark. At least that's what mine does.
Old 12-31-2015, 03:19 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Reiver
 
Reiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 57,376
Pull the gauge unit and clean the connectors...prob a ground issue at the gauge.

__________________
De Oppresso Liber
Strength and Honor 5th Legion
Old 12-31-2015, 03:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:03 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.