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86 ssinit 01-16-2016 08:19 AM

Taking apart a blown engine and have some questions.(open at your own risk scary pics
 
In 2014 this engine blew up. been sitting for a year now and i now have time to take it apart.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1452964032.jpg
I know most of this engine is shot but I'm wondering what i can salvage. can the chain tensioners be used in the 83sc.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1452964273.jpg
I've removed the cylinder heads 1 was destroyed 2 have damage is this damage fixable?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1452964455.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1452964519.jpg
as seen case is shot and i haven't split it yet.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1452964703.jpg
thanks for any info.

86 ssinit 01-16-2016 08:22 AM

yes i know that first cylinder can't be fixed I'm asking about the 2 in the second picture thanks again

Joe Bob 01-16-2016 08:33 AM

Take everything apart....it's a good experience. Take all the heads, rods, pistons and crank to a GOOD machine shop. Have them check measure and estimate repairs. Junk the junk and look for replacements as needed.

Oil pump is likely junk as is oil cooler. Save all the nuts and bolts.

Use the case as a door stop.....

john walker's workshop 01-16-2016 09:54 AM

Save all the studs that you can remove from the case. Waste not, want not.

SoyRacer 01-16-2016 01:00 PM

It's really just hardware that's worth salvaging. Anything lubricated has been exposed to metal particles and is compromised. Cam gears can be saved. Pistons are risky without ultrasonic cleaning, heads would need ultrasonic and guides. The oil pump might be salvageable but would need to be gone through professionally. Remaining cylinders are good candidates for bore and replate. I window the cylinders in those areas anyway when boat-tailing a block.
Good luck and let me know if you want to sell the wasted case.

Geneman 01-16-2016 05:30 PM

are they 3.2 heads? want to sell them as cores?

i had similar carnage when mine let go last year.. oiling problem at high speed coming onto the back straight at road atlanta big boom!

the engine surgery is fun, because its more like a post mortem dissection.... you get to see how it works and patient never has to wake up!! BINGO!
be careful removing the rings if they break they are extremely sharp!

good luck and condolences on your loss.

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Lapkritis 01-16-2016 05:41 PM

Loose rod bolts?

bkreigsr 01-17-2016 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geneman (Post 8960602)

...man after my own heart. Press on regardless.
Bill K

porterdog 01-17-2016 06:01 AM

Nasty.

boosted79 01-17-2016 06:34 AM

Details? Stock rod bolts and missed shift?

DRACO A5OG 01-17-2016 09:08 AM

Wow, we really do Bleed for our cars. I have so many battle scars, it's not funny. At least the digits are still attached :D

Man, really sorry to see these pics, damn.

+1 a good experience!

86 ssinit 01-17-2016 09:54 AM

Yes stock rod bolts. Was shifting from 2nd to 3rd at around 3500rpm. Wasn't a missed shift cause my car won't shift from 2nd to 1st without coming to a stop. Engine was running fine and had around 107k on it and was never opened. I think the rod bolt broke or the nut came loose. Haven't found those peices yet. Maybe inside the case.
Still wondering
Can I use the oil fed chain tensioners and the timing chain covers on an 83sc

Flat6pac 01-17-2016 10:03 AM

Yes they fit an SC.
Bruce

86 ssinit 02-18-2016 12:40 PM

Ok I split the case and found the rest of the debris inside the case. I believe it was the head of the bolt on the connecting rod that caused the blow up.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455831161.jpg
Also after taking all the rods out I noticed that the blown up rod is different from all the others. Notice the numbers in the next picture. Saw in Geneman engine pic that his connecting rod is the same as my broker one. Why would I have different rods in there???? [img]http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads24/image1455831468.jpg[/
Again thanks for any info. Was fun taking apart the engine and I still have to take apart the cam housing.

patz 02-18-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86 ssinit (Post 9003621)
Why would I have different rods in there???? [img]http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads24/image1455831468.jpg[/
Again thanks for any info. Was fun taking apart the engine and I still have to take apart the cam housing.

Budget rebuild is my guess. :rolleyes:

86 ssinit 02-18-2016 12:50 PM

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zippy_gg 02-18-2016 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patz (Post 9003630)
Budget rebuild is my guess. :rolleyes:

Motormeister?

DRACO A5OG 02-18-2016 12:59 PM

Either way, Imbecile Moron. I get sick when I see the pics :-(

patz 02-18-2016 01:00 PM

Weigh the rods, check bearings, mike the the rod journal. See if the specs are out of kilter.

The replacement could have been boogie rigged. I hope your crank is OK.

86 ssinit 02-18-2016 01:17 PM

Yes patz I'm thinking the same thing. Unfortunately for me I was told it was all original never opened. Through records and car fax I'm the 3rd owner and the second only had it for 6 months and under 1k miles. I bought the car for the same price he paid so I don't think he did the engine work. I have records from the first owner going back to the early 90s. Nothing about engine work. I guess you never know.


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