Workshop vs Service Manual. Whats the diff? Bentley?
 

I am looking to get the most comprehensive manual on my '77 911s, to be used for servicing, repairs etc

I have a few on the net - but what is the difference between the workshop and service manuals? Is there a difference?

I see some are sold by Bentley (although i have not found one for a '77), and others are from folks selling in binder etc...

In your experience - which are the best??

There is no Bentley for the mid year cars. The workshop manuals and maybe a Chilton or Haynes are all there are.
The factory manuals have the correct information.

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To me, the factory manuals are more accurate and a bit more focused / tailored, written for trained mechanics, and may cost more.
The aftermarket (haynes) are more available, a little model-generic sometimes, more "how-to" oriented, sometimes have a typo or 3, and more widely used (or cursed at).

I'd recommend getting chilton/haynes, and then the FM's if you had the money/inclination.

I started with a haynes (and now never use it), rely on the Bently, but the only FM i bought is the schematic/wirelist set. I have also collected some other manuals that are more generic, like the Bosch engine management book, and of course, Wayne's 101 Project book.

Some things you might really like to have... :)
'77 schematics, schematic supplementals and the '72-'83 workshop manual... :)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jxno8o6qae3roun/AADW1qBcRc53LoEG0TPbRwFva?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hr6dquonkwjp23a/AABjbboPo-4J2L9nBoC5tbh6a?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fk4vh8e9cqe5p1q/911%2072-83%20Porsche%20Workshop%20Manual.pdf?dl=0

Oh man, Dennis, where did you get that 1000-page workshop manual!?!?! I have the hard copy, but this is great.

Thank you!

Mark

thanks Dennis......you are my hero I am so happy to have that manual for my 1973!!

JobsZA - pm sent :)

At the risk of high jacking this thread, does anyone have the pages for the Differential section from a Porsche Manual? I have attached 2 sample pages from the manual that I have which I have been led to believe is from Porsche. The Differential section starts with page 390.


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As with most Factory Shop Manuals, they are designed as a procedural process coupled with training. They are in no way considered a DIY instruction kit. That being said, this and many other forums coupled with the FSM are a formidable combo and will allow the average Joe plenty of knowledge/opportunity to do their own stuff. Having the paper and PDF copies of the FSM and Parts Catalog has been invaluable.

I don't have my copy in front if me, but I think those pages might be from the Bentley manual, not the factory manual.

If you go up a few posts, Timmy2 has links to a pdf of the 1972-1983 Porsche workshop manual. The differential section starts on page 453 of 1005. Even though you have a 1985, you still have a 915 transmission, so the information in the 1983 should still apply, with few, if any changes.

Mark

Are there any '87 workshop manuals floating around in PDF form on the internet? I can't find any used copies of real ones on EBay or Amazon. I've found the Bentley useful for the projects I've worked on so far, I'd like to have the factory info, as well.

The 72-83 manuals are helpful, but are not complete unless you also have the original 2-volume 65-71 set. The 72-83 manuals only cover things that are new or different from the 65-71 set.

The later 84-89 5-volume set is complete. Probably the reason there's not much demand for pdf version of those is that the Bentley manual is far more useful and DIY-friendly.

I have all 3 FWM sets.

Carrera manuals:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vaum8yzxavh8kzj/911%2084-89%20Porsche%20Workshop%20Manual.pdf?dl=0

Yeah, but unfortunately that pdf, which came from the Cannell UK site, is missing 14 out of the 46 sections. Certainly better than nothing, though.

Thanks for the download Dennis

Ditto, Dennis.

Wow! Awesome! Thank you, Dennis.

It's missing some sections but the most important ones are there.

Thanks for sharing! :)

Pdf
 

I don't think the Cannell site is any longer active.

If some one has the link, please post.

Gerry

Cannell site has been gone for years for downloads.
The link to my Dropbox file still works. Go back a few posts to Queenie’s post.

Cannell site for PDF manuals has been down for a couple years now. I recently sent him an email to see if he'd moved them to a different server, but he confirmed they are no longer available due to pressure he received from Porsche corporate.

Happy Thanksgiving, here are all the manuals I have in PDF and zip.
The 911 stuff all years zip is big but has everything you will likely need!
Found it on impactbumpers web site a few years ago.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/07qvhojclw3jmj3/AABDbm2bcG4LnGvlx-yXPVIsa?dl=0

Let's give thanks to Timmy2 for the early holiday gift!

Amen to that; thank you Dennis. I had never seen the sealing manual before...great stuff.

WOW! Thanks Dennis and Timmy2.

Thanks for the links guys!


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Dennis very cool for you to share - thanks! I'm particularly interested in the Targa Top sealing at this point. This is a job I've been putting off till winter. Once I get my engine out and shipped off (which should happen this weekend) the top adjusting is the next project.

The information available on this forum, along with the people who take the time to assist and share is truly amazing!

Cheers, Mark.

Dennis,

Very generous!
My hat off to you, sir.

Thnx

No big deal guys and gals, found all of it via threads and posts here and elsewhere.
Just “paying it forward”. :)

You made my day Sir!

Thanks a lot

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awesome, thanks Dennis