911 "Club"

caliber60 · 12-18-2002, 03:39 PM

I am talking about "Club" the anti-theft device. That's all I can think of to put on a 911. Any other suggestion besides installing an alarm system?

Superman · 12-18-2002, 03:47 PM

If they really want it, you can't protect it, even if you weld it to a guard rail. Get insurance.

pbs911 · pbs911's Garage

I have always throught the best anti-theft device would be the air jacks. A flip of a switch and your car is lifted off the ground. A tow truck couldn't even wheel the car away. Great for r4epairs too. Probably cost a little more than the Club.

And then there is the quick disconnect for the steering wheel. But you may feel a little silly walking around with your steering wheel.

An alarm only annoys people and most would rather have someone steel the car so they don't have to listen to the alarm going off.

A club just tells the thief to take bolt cutters or a hack saw with him and he'll have to spend about 3 seconds cutting the steering wheel.

Personally, I like the devises that make the thief believe the car does not run - ignition cut off, fuel cut off.

Super's got it right - if they want it, the'll get it.

Jack Olsen · 12-18-2002, 04:38 PM

Slightly more expensive, but better than the club (IMO) is this:

It doubles as a spacer, allows you to take your wheel out at the track, and -- most importantly -- makes it pretty clear to a prospective thief that the car is going to be hard to steer.

No device of any kind is 100% theftproof, but for $139 or so, this seems okay.

I don't think Wayne carries anything like this. I ordered mine through TRE Motorsports.

Hetmann · 12-18-2002, 04:41 PM

I guess I've always felt that older 911s were not that attractive to car thieves since the parts didn't fit on Hondas and Camaros. I've never thought mine would get stolen. I actually took an Ungo box off mine when it started to interfere with my electrical system. I think the best deterent might be a hidden kill switch with a "key" you take with you.

12-18-2002, 04:49 PM

I noticed a tech article here for a DIY kill-switch. Has anyone had a go at this or anything similar?

12-19-2002, 03:33 AM

What JackOlsen said.

Here's mine:

Randy W · Randy W's Garage

I like Dr. Paul's advise .... Air Jacks!

RoninLB · 12-19-2002, 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by Superman
If they really want it, you can't protect it, even if you weld it to a guard rail. Get insurance.

my brothers friend had his 993 inside a closed garage, and his Ferrari outside in the driveway.. they moved the Ferrari and stole the 993...
Anyway.. I spoke to a NY city auto theft cop/friend who says that a lojack may help if nothing important to do.. and the thief may park the car in a out-of-the-way place for a few days to see if cops come to get it.. but he did say the best thing to do is the routine alarm system that the thief will have no problem with. then a hidden alarm system.. and as he is driving away a hidden engine "delayed Kill" will send him running.. he will want otta there quick.. he doesn't know who saw him do the theft/does the owner know and called PD.. and he doesn't want to play around with it anymore.. I figure, find out how the installers do an alarm install then do a different one.. and a multi level approach is probably the best.. I started looking into a GPS install/never finished.. and a remote pager, although limited in range, is helpful. and I did read that in S. Africa carjacking is almost routine. and there is a legal anti carjacking system that uses propane. it shoots 6ft flames from injectors under the doors. I don't know if it's legal in liberal US.. propane sounds like a good idea to someone who has a gun pointed at you. there is not enough room on a 911 for a routine install......Ron

John Brandt · 12-19-2002, 09:02 AM

I just pull the coil wire and take it with me if I'm worried about it.

I don't think many thieves carry spares in their kit

dickster · 12-19-2002, 09:08 AM

those quick release wheels are ilegal here in the uk i believe.

we have datatagging or something. a device is fitted to the car (very well hidden) that relays a signal via satelite or something to police central station. they'll find it where ever it is. theres an annual fee for the service.

is that what you call "lojack"?

jpachard · 12-19-2002, 09:17 AM

I keep my 115Lb. Rottweiler in the car whenever possible...

Cheers, James

David Bahr · 12-19-2002, 11:11 AM

John Brandt had it right: just take your coil wire with you!

Cornpanzer · 12-19-2002, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by John Brandt
I just pull the coil wire and take it with me if I'm worried about it.

I don't think many thieves carry spares in their kit

True, but it doesnt take long to pull off a plug wire, substitute it for the coil wire and drive away on 5 cyl.

John Brandt · 12-19-2002, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Cornpanzer
True, but it doesnt take long to pull off a plug wire, substitute it for the coil wire and drive away on 5 cyl.

this is true Panzer.

Then again I don't think there are many thieves who want to get involved in mid-crime fault diagnosis.

I guess If they want it that bad they can have it!

RoninLB · 12-19-2002, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by dickster
we have datatagging or something.
is that what you call "lojack"?

exactly the same.. but the "lowjack" is somehow limited in range that the car can travel to.. the US has sections that are covered. don't know much more about it.............Ron

k9handler · 12-19-2002, 12:17 PM

do like me at the moment....leave it open with the keys in it and watch, the if they actually get it started run out and thank em for fixing it!

Mine starts, but you have to know the tricks.

Run fuel pump 2 sec...pull hand throttle....pump accelerator 3 times....etc.

I guess a faulty WUR can double as anti-theft....hmmm, I am going to call my insurance and ask. Ha Ha

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

For us motronic guys, I think yanking the DME relay might be the easiest and cheapest anti-theft device. How many car thieves carry spares with them? It's easier than putting my club on.

tobluforu · tobluforu's Garage

Well, since I've had a car stolen before, this is what I do. Oh by the way, my car had the key pad, ignition cut off and electric fuel pump w\cutoff switch. All the goodies which did not do jack!
Now, I use the pedal jack that I bought from tweeks-sorry wayne! I installed it upside down so there is no way you can access the 4 way tumbler-wiedest looking key I have ever seen. I bought two. One to see how easy it would be to break it. No way with a hack saw-no room plus I tried to cut through it with out it installed. I would say it would take about 2-3 hours of steady sawing and 10 blades. Saws all-no room to get in there. Now what can cut through it is a drill with a disc grinder on the end made to cut through steel-still a hard position but can be down in about 30 minutes. Makes a hell of a racket. I think this is one of the cheapest and best on the market.
I also unplug the coil wire and have a battery dissconnect. While I'm unplugging the coil wire I unplug the CD unit.
This is not an everyday driver so, doing all the above would be a hassle. Oh yeah, I also have a lock on the car cover-yee haaa.
But, if they want it they will get it!!
So if your in the market for the club, forget it. Get the pedal jack.

Axeman · 12-19-2002, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Richard LeSchander
For us motronic guys, I think yanking the DME relay might be the easiest and cheapest anti-theft device. How many car thieves carry spares with them? It's easier than putting my club on.

The goal is to weed out the 80% of cars thieves that don't understand "layered approach" and advanced anti-theft systems.
The other 20% are divided between the smarter thieves who can get around any alarms and then the 2% high-tech thieves that know everything about these cars. Most thieves that know about these cars will carry a DMW switch with them, because everyone knows the trick. Alarms are absolutely worthless no matter how expensive they are, and so is LowJack for that 20% "smart thieves"...they're all wired the same way and they all run the wires in the same area as well, so the thief will laugh as he pulls them out within 30 seconds. These cars are some of the easiest cars to steal if you know about them no matter how many hidden switches you have. I'm totally paranoid about this stuff, so I'm trying to design a "bulletproof" layered approach to weed out 98% of the thieves out there. If you're unlucky and that 2% gets a hold of your car it's theirs...as they always say, they'll pull up with the flatbed and will be gone in 60 seconds...

Cheers!