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82sc stranded in Kamloops BC help please

Had 4 hour drive here last night over twisty road. Too much fun. This am car started ran for couple min then died. Am now on side of freeway. Sat all day, started and ran for 8 sec then died again. Sounds like it wants to start but nope. My gut tells me clogged fuel filter. Any suggestions and or tricks most appreciated

I have to head home to vancouver tomorrow and really dont want to tow to garage and wait till monday then have to make return trip

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Swap red fuel pump relay with the horn relay and try to start it.
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Have any gas in the tank ?
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I'm in Vernon if you still need a hand with it. Drove my SC up last night too. Frunk with tools and a Bentley if you're still stuck.
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Check if the "Peanut" boot came off the CIS throttle body.
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Could be a faulty fuel sender making you think there's gas in the tank. Take the air filter off and with the key on, reach in the airbox and lift the sensor plate arm. There should be some pressure on it and you will hear the injectors whizz. If it flops around, either there's no gas or the fuel pump isn't working due to bad relay, bad fuse connection (#6 fuse), or the pump died.
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Check if the "Peanut" boot came off the CIS throttle body.

Dont know what that is, can u describe?


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My gut tells me clogged fuel filter.
Being stranded is no fun.

I once put a bottle of Techtron fuel system cleaner in my full gas tank as I headed out on a long road trip. After a few hours, the car started hesitating & stumbling. It'd run OK under minimal load & idle OK but if you stepped on it much, it'd start to cut out.

Turns out the Techtron loosened 30 years of crust, crud, rust & varnish in the fuel tank and completely clogged the screen at the tank outlet & the fuel filer. It was impressive. The car would start and run fine for a short bit, but would stumble & hesitate under any load, when it needed more than a trickle of fuel.

If you're tool-less, diagnosing could be a little tricky... Wish I could help more...

Best of luck.
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Sonofa***** the pump relay was half wiggled out, pushed it in and she fired right up


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Sonofa***** the pump relay was half wiggled out, pushed it in and she fired right up


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Glad you found it & it was an easy fix!!

Safe travels.
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Glad you found it & it was an easy fix.
No kidding. Makes one feel a little silly for something so simple, but makes the fix pretty easy.

All the help here makes this board so awesome! Safe travels.
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Just got back from test ride and seems all good. Thanks to everyone for comments. I would argue that was the easiest fix ever, just push relay back in. Lesson learned is i will pre emptively replace filter accumulator and maybe fuel pump.

I almost paid 600 to flat deck the car home just so i didnt have to leave it behind.


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Tom, how did you resolve that Techron issue?
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Do I get a prize for making you look?
Lol, glad it was that simple.
Take a razor blade and run it down the X pattern of the male relay pins to spread them a little.
Should keep it from working its way out again.
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I just used the razor blade method to spead apart the prongs on a new relay a couple of weeks ago. I didn't like how it felt in the socket right out of the box.
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I almost paid 600 to flat deck the car home just so i didnt have to leave it behind.
If you had AMA (or I guess BCAA) I think you get the first 100 or 150 km for no charge. That'd get you to the summit of the Coq and then you could probably coast in to Abbotsford...
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Tom, how did you resolve that Techron issue?
I swapped in a new fuel filter a few times to make it home. Then once home, I drained, removed & rinsed/flushed the tank - literally removed handfuls of crud - then replaced the fuel filter again.

It would've been fine if I'd just left it alone & not done the Techron treatment... but I had to poke the sleeping bear!
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If you had AMA (or I guess BCAA) I think you get the first 100 or 150 km for no charge. That'd get you to the summit of the Coq and then you could probably coast in to Abbotsford...

I'm glad that the 'fix' cost nothing except for a long night that likely unfortunately included a tad of anxiety -> Not good.

Because it is an old car, we yearly purchase BCAA's premium policy for $120.00 CAN.
It provides two deck loaded moves 'up to' 320 km -aka- 200 miles. We haven't had to use it yet but one never knows 'if', 'when' or 'where' ay. It also includes having gas brought out to you for free. I believe that this is quite a normal service of the AAA / CAA / BCAA membership.

I have replaced (preventive maintenance) all of the sensors and relays over the past two years. I did though still purchase a new fuel pump and a relay, fuses etc. that I have in the trunk for 'just in case' as they say.
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I had the same thing happen

Don't feel bad! I had the exact same thing happen, only mine happened right after going over some train tracks... I found when I replaced my old fuel pump relay, the new one didn't fit as snugly. You can gently open the pins a bit to get a tighter fit. I've had some doozies in other cars on the Coquihala highway... Accelerator cable snapped in my 68 VW bus one time, but I was able to coast a very long way...
Glad you got it sorted out!
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Don't feel bad! I had the exact same thing happen, only mine happened right after going over some train tracks... I found when I replaced my old fuel pump relay, the new one didn't fit as snugly. You can gently open the pins a bit to get a tighter fit. I've had some doozies in other cars on the Coquihala highway... Accelerator cable snapped in my 68 VW bus one time, but I was able to coast a very long way...
Glad you got it sorted out!
I also had an accelerator cable break in my '67 bug. I just wrapped some wire around the arm on the carb to keep it revving higher and drove away with my one speed "cruise control."

After that I learned to drive the car with no clutch - starting, stopping, shifting, whatever - so when that cable inevitably broke, I could still get home.

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