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tdskip 08-25-2016 04:41 PM

Just replace outer tie rods?
 
Picked up a used SC rack that already has turbo tie rods on it that seem fine, but the outer tie rods need to be replaced from when then were removed from the car. Any reason not to just replace the very outer ones?

Thanks!

KNS 08-25-2016 05:29 PM

Perfectly fine to replace just the outer tie rod ends. Make sure get the ends for the Turbo Tie Rods as I think there are different from the standard ones.

tdskip 08-25-2016 06:54 PM

Thanks Kurt

RichardNew 08-26-2016 08:12 AM

I would just replace the outer tie rods.

http://www.elephantracing.com/suspen...bo_tie_rod.jpg

Here's some stuff I wrote a while back on all of this.

Richard Newton

chris_seven 08-26-2016 08:37 AM

Surely this is both the tie rod and the track rod end?

JRSIII 08-26-2016 08:57 AM

We may be getting tripped up on terminology. The picture above is the entire tie rod. I believe the PO is asking if it's OK to replace just the tie rod end, as pictured below. This is certainly acceptable. In my mind, there really isn't an inner and outer tie rod on a 911 per se.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1472230600.jpg

JRSIII 08-26-2016 08:57 AM

I meant OP not PO

JRSIII 08-26-2016 09:01 AM

And obviously the tie rod end picture I uploaded isn't from a turbo tie rod, but hopefully works as an illustration.

tdskip 08-26-2016 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRSIII (Post 9256322)
We may be getting tripped up on terminology. The picture above is the entire tie rod. I believe the PO is asking if it's OK to replace just the tie rod end, as pictured below. This is certainly acceptable. In my mind, there really isn't an inner and outer tie rod on a 911 per se.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1472230600.jpg

Exactly - I'm going to look for the very "outer".

chris_seven 08-26-2016 09:47 AM

I agree - back to the old chestnut 'two countries separated by a common language' with a few dodgy German translations thrown in to make it a real muddle.:)

Porsche call the entire assembly a 'tie rod' in the PET and the end joint a 'ball joint'.

In the UK the Outer joint is most commonly called Track Rod End and the part that bolts to the rack as a tie rod.

I think we use the expression Track Rod End as this is where the tracking (toe) is adjusted.

I guess that in the USA the definitions are more commonly shown on the attached sketch.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...pslg2bmauv.jpg

SiberianDVM 08-26-2016 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdskip (Post 9256404)
Exactly - I'm going to look for the very "outer".

I just did this yesterday. Certainly a lot easier than replacing the whole tie rods.

hangar21 08-26-2016 05:46 PM

I have these rods ends, never used from my 87. Let me know if your interested?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1472262389.jpg

KNS 08-27-2016 03:59 AM

^^ Those are the proper ones with the castellated nut and pin. There are others with a simple nylock nut which Porsche did not originally use.

tdskip 08-27-2016 05:04 AM

PM sent Hanger

RichardNew 08-28-2016 06:07 AM

Sorry about the slightly confusing image. :)

Richard Newton


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