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You can't look at only the nominal width of a tire, 245, 255, 265 etc. Fit depends on the wheel width and ET + the tire width and OD + ride height and suspension. It's the interaction of all of these that determines whether a wheel/tire combo works or not. 255/50 x16 is a ~26" +/- tire, 255/40 x17 is a 24.9" +/- tire, that extra inch of OD makes a huge difference in fit(and gearing) here's a chart I put together showing some fitments that work and how close to the edge they are, the intersection of the dotted red lines marks a reasonable max, this isn't absolute as suspension spec and setup will also affect fitment. The chart is for a lowered but not slammed SC/Carrera body w/ stock suspension and street alignment. The wider the tire or wheel the less wiggle room, in front 8 ET25 to 31 is best but I've seen up to 9 here, in back the widest I've fit is 275 on 9.5ET19 there's no wiggle room on these, but I've seen up to 10 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1474632298.gif 911s gearing and tires are all designed around a 25" +/- tire, you can go w/ shorter tires easily as this mostly affects speedo/odo and cruise rpm, but the taller the tire the worse it affects fitment some typical 25" +/- tires for the back 225/50 x16 24.9" on average stock fitment on a 7ET23,3 or 8Et10.6, 8 is the widest wheel, spacers can be used to move the wheel clower to the lip if suspension allows it 245/45 x16 24.7" on average, fits well w/ 9ET15, 9 is the widest wheel, spacers can be used if suspension allows 255/40 x17 24.9" on average, fits well on a 9ET15, 10 is the widest(but tough to fit), spacers can be use if suspension allows 275/35 x17 24.7" on average, needs a 9 to 11" wheel, tough tire to find these days 255/35 x18 24.9" on average, needs an 8.5 to 10" wheel |
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^This is true. And you can't just stock pile 'em, because they do go bad on a shelf even in proper storage.
I'm still waiting for some tire company uninterested in profit to come out with a 255/40/16, etc. My car never felt faster than when running a 24" rear OD tire. |
My 255s are on the other car, but I got the idea from my friend's SC who has 255s in the back, I'll find a picture.
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Not 255/40/16, I assure you. I've got 255/40/17 on the back of mine, but it's about stock OD. I'm all about the reduced OD on the back axle when possible.
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Manufacturers want the public to regularly replace tires every 5-6 years whether they're worn out or not. That's great for tire sales. RE11s aren't going to be around fairly soon. MHO. Sherwood |
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I think you're correct on proper storage: essentially, no weight on them, no sunlight, and for sticky tahrs, no storage under 40 or 50 degrees F. Better alternative: drive your car so much "storage" doesn't enter the equation, and burn through that tread. But forget the manufacturers, in whose best interest obviously lies the consumer buying a new set as often as possible: I've definitely felt the difference in stick between new (broken in) tires, and tires just a few short years/miles old. Will you notice this sort of thing on the street on a casual drive? Heck no. But if you're trying to apex at autocross, or even in suboptimal temps or rainy conditions on street, it can make a noticeable difference. The RE-11 problem is a real crisis (in the most 1st world way possible :D), and I'm not sure what I'll do for my fat 16" tire needs post RE-11. Like I said, I'm pulling for some tire company hell bent on not making a dime to whip out some good, wide, old-school tire sizes in the future. |
So what is the option for a 16 inch 205 or 225 front and 245 rear setup once the re11 eventually becomes unavailable?
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To your previous question about 205 on 7 in front with 245 on 9 in rear with RE-11, "does it push?" -Thats my exact set up. The car is aligned & corner balanced, has uprated TBs 22/30, front camber plates at -1.8* and I've never felt it push in the least bit on the track driving it at the limit of my abilities, albeit aggressively. Im sure a expert driver at 100% could make anything push. Don't know if it was 100% needed but front fender lips are rolled. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1474727768.jpg |
If it were my car and a street car I'd put:
205/55/16 on the 7" up front 225/50/16 on the 8" in the rear Plenty of tire for that car and you'll keep the rotating mass weight down a tad. The other choice if you really want to do it would be: 225/50/16 on the 7" up front 245/45/16 on the 8" in the rear |
Just got my new R1 Ss mounted. Very little clearance, but no rubbing.:cool:
225 and 245s on 7 &8" x 16s. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1474755671.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1474755730.jpg |
I've got 9 inch rears. Will the 225 be stretched on the rear if I switch from a 245 at some point?
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Tirerack.com shows 2 options for 205/245 combo
Pirelli - P ZERO TROFEO R (street legal tires) Toyo - PROXES R888 (autocross only, not sure about street?) Choices for matched sets do look slim. Quote:
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You can use the toyos on the street but the drone will make you want to puncture your ear drums to make it stop.... Pirelli is a good option for sure. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk |
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