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AFR Gauge Setup

Can anyone recommend a good plug and play permanently installed AFR gauge setup
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I tried Innovative but it through a code they had never seen before?
I am using Autometer right now..
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JBELL on this site makes AFR gauges built in to you gauge…
I used an AEM wide and controller to send the gauge the signal
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In the process of completing install that sailplane describes
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In the process of completing install that sailplane describes
Any part numbers for the controller and sensor setup?
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I usually put the AEM 30-4110 UEGO kit in all my cars with carbs.
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Same here.
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I added a bung for the WBO2, and used the AEM controller. Just have to run the harness, have the JBell triple gauge. Have been dreading crawling under to run the cable, but have a plan. Need to get under there to touch up paint a sway bar bracket weld, so will tackle getting the harness installed, I hope. The triple with voltmeter was pretty straightforward, so fingers crossed on this.
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PLX multi gauge….AFR, Boost, intake air temp, etc.
Get JBELL to mod clock for you, or, DIY if you are handy.

PLX now has a new finger touch gauge that you can instal into the clock. Pretty cool.
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Thanks for all of the replies Helpful as always
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I run dual AEM UEGO controllers and route the signal to my ECU and to a gauge I made for the dash that replaced the seatbelt light. Works great for balancing banks for ITBs at idle and at any TPS position.
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Jim Williams designed and built a unique in the dash fuel pressure gauge. Elegant solution. He had a thread here on Pelican. Click on the

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/516270-dash-fuel-pressure-gauge-cis.html

This is for a CIS but perhaps it could be adapted.

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Installed wiring for this today, jbell triple gauge in fuel and oil level. He has one for sale, used Aem controller under drivers seat.
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Installed wiring for this today, jbell triple gauge in fuel and oil level. He has one for sale, used Aem controller under drivers seat.
Could you post a picture? Thanks
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https://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1133967-latest-john-bell-art.html#post11910482
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Thanks Chris. Does the oil temp and pressure use the original connections or did you have to rewire?
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Close to plug and play…I think I had to modify a connector for the lights and some jumper double spades fo ground and switched 12v. Not hard, maybe 2hrs taking my time.
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Thanks for the replies Chris much appreciated
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I have used Innovate for several years, they have lots of options these days.

Here is an old thread of mine:
Innovate LM2 and Logworks 3
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Mike -

As offered, total install took about 1.5 hours for running the harness, including 30 minutes of WTF, and head scratching. I retained the O2 sensor, the WBO2 bung was added after discussion with icarp.

The harness for the sensor is not long enough to run into the cabin, so it runs up along the body seam and was tied into the AC line cushion clamp, then over to the main harness using the frame clamps up to the grommet. From the inside I pulled up the rear carpet and pulled the grommet into the rear floor well and cut it at the 12 o'clock. This allowed me to shove the controller harness plug connector out to under the car. I wedged the grommet in as best I could to protect the harnesses, and used a plug to hold it all in. I will go back this week and use dum dum under the car like old school firewall seal. The conectors are zip tied out of the way and also this week will use heat shrink and zip ties to protect the connection.

The controller harness runs under the driver's seat, and then the power and signal wires come out and go under the threshold carpet, and up to the trunk through the drivers foot blower area. Everything is tucked away and uses the body harness ties to hold them in place. I will neaten up under the seat this week with some zip ties as well.

With the harness fished into the trunk I used a combo of spade connectors to connect to the triple gauge AFT - essentially GRD AFR and +12V. For the ground I used a double spade jumper on the oil and fuel level gauge and made a jumper between the two guages. For 12V I did the same with the switched 12V that goes to the lights on the AFR guage. The signal wire goes in the middle.

For the power side, I ran the red 12V power and black ground up to the fuse block. Inserted a 10A inline fuse and then fished the wire to the fuse 9 jump block. There is a body ground just forward for the black wire.

I fired it up, and voila - nothing.... forgot to install fuse. After putting fuse in, fired up and the AFR went right to around 14.7, and then pegged as 12 for ~7-9 seconds while the controller booted, and then worked as advertised.

Photos with the installed, oil level shows low because it is still not hot enough, when hot comes up another 3/16ths which is where I like to keep it. Gage glass is dirty

Love the voltmeter, works perfect as all of John's gages.





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