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how to matte paint?

I once saw a longhood kinda outlaw with a blue matte paint finish.
since then I'm flashed. It'd be one of the few options I'd like my car to look like (except bahama yellow or dolphin grey).

well, as my car is blue (got a US-paintjob sometime in early 2000) which is not original and not too well done, and as I don't plan to strip it in near time, I thaugt that the actual paint can be matted. and I don't want to save that paint til I die.

so, for the meantime, is this a good idea? if yes, how to?
grind it gently with 3000-pads?

(no plastidip suggestion please, I read lots about it, but it'll add 5-6kg more to the weight)

Thanks for suggestions.

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satin clear finish?
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don't want to add on top
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Use a polish, when detailing I use DuPont white polishing compound. It will leave a satin look to your paint job.
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Scotchbrite pads.
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Do you mean flat or satin? Got a photo?



I don't think you'll be able to get satin by scuffing paint, and I haven't seen flat look good on much. The problem with satin, whether vinyl or paint, is that it wears to glossy. You wind up with glossy spots...Best bet would be vinyl wrap. A thousand bucks and plenty of labor. At least with vinyl, you can pull it off and redo sections (unless it has faded).

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+1 on vinyl wrap. My DIY glossy job is still looking good after a few years.
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satin 'd be cool (as in the picture).

no wrap, sorry, it adds weight and especially the rear bumper gets really hot, I fear this will damage the foil.

I'l speek to a detailer here nearby as to how to treat the paint to roughen zhe gloss.

thank you all.
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The material used in a vinyl wrap doesn't weigh that much. Cut out the strudel for a couple months and you'll be good to go.
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I actually did a rough calculation at one time of the weight addition from applying vinyl wrap to my Targa and it was only ~5 lbs. I removed the air conditioning, did a heater backdate, rear seat delete, and shaved the rear bumperetes to even that out...

The wrap on my rear bumper has held up very well without any visible heat effects. (This is on a '75 Targa with a 2.7.)
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I would also consider the wrap. 5 lbs matters on a street car? Really? Maybe you guys don't fill the gas tank past 1/2 way either?
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There is no scuff or sand option that doesn't look terrible. You can a matte clear wrap to keep your existing color or spend as much as it costs for a proper paint job and do a matte finish clear over your existing paint job. Caution as this needs to be done by someone well versed in matte finishes. I charge close to $15k just to matte out an existing color on a new car, truck or SUV
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I saw a guy once use Comet cleanser on his paint. It wasn't shiny any more.
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Wrap it.
The only way to get a true flat finish is with flattener added to the paint when it's sprayed.
As said, no scuffing process looks good.
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If you go to Bremmerhaven where they ship new BMW's off to the rest of the world, you can see every car covered with wax and looking very 'flat finished'... kinda like the at blue Porsche posted earlier.
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If the extra weight of a wrap is a concern, you could change out your spare tire for an aluminum one from a 944 turbo. I know you just refinished yours and made it all pretty, but the aluminum ones likely just need a good cleaning to look great. They weigh in at 12.9 kg (28.5 lbs) versus 15.5 kg (34 lbs) on a digital bathroom scale.


My factory spare - 15.5 kg (34 lbs):




944 Turbo spare (kinda dirty) - 12.9 kg (28.5 lbs)




And your pretty refurbished spare:




Or you could use a Fuchs wheel with the collapsible tire at slightly more than the Turbo version - 13.4 kg (29.5 lbs).

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Back in the day you could shoot Acrylic lacquer paint and not buff it but it would eventually get shinny in spots as you washed it etc.
(Can you even get Acrylic lacquer in the US now?)

Could you do the same with 2Pack? Just shoot the base coat with no clear coat and let it set.
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The problem with scuffing a paint job is it will show variations because of the normal orange peel. To get it to look good your choices are:
1) - Satin/matte overcoat
2) - Repaint
3) - Vinyl wrap
3) - Matte clear bra
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I used PPG Flex n Flat clear...




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Cool. PPG looks great , & the single wiper!

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