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Victory1 05-29-2017 02:36 PM

Do the right thing, not the "light thing."
 
Hello everyone. I'm fairly new to the forum. Just purchased a 1979 Porsche "for a song" and starting on restoring or rescuing it from what the previous owner did to it.

I find myself looking at the forum classifieds daily, twice daily, and spending at least an hour each time. Maybe i should change the topic to "forum addiction."

The car started out as a 1979 SC targa. previous owner converted it into a cabriolet.
He then updated the bumpers and rear lights to 1990's model 964.

The car is now undergoing a backdate of sorts. One may argue its not a backdate but a restoration, to a more period correct look.

This brings me to the topic of the thread: doing the right thing in this case would add about 60 lbs. to the car, and that's just from the front and rear bumper.


this is what the car originated as
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496091992.jpg

i believe this is the look the previous owner was going for
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496091992.jpg

heres what it looked like when i picked it up
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496092548.jpg

in the shop
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496092612.jpg

engine out:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496092650.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496092650.jpg

here's the 40 lb. rear bumper
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496093392.JPG

the 40 lb. front bumper:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496093510.jpg

it seems like the bumpers are only a few of the things that add to the weight of the car. the metal targa roof weight is approx 80 lbs.


anyone who has any input, or anyone who has done this before, i would love to hear from you.


Cheers!

75 911s 05-29-2017 04:00 PM

I think you're on the right track. The 964 stuff has to go. Could be like a speedster hot rod look if you want. I think you have license to mod at this point.

DaveMcKenz 05-29-2017 05:35 PM

That looks like a good project. A restored 79 SC targa is a known entity, and will probably appreciate in value over time. I think you also like the 79 original look or you would not be thinking about this. Most of the time, with a few exceptions, stock will look better than most modified products.
Good luck, and please keep us posted,
Dave

dicklague 05-29-2017 06:13 PM

Leave it as a convertible or turn it into a coupe......

Targa.....uhmmmm....well,,,,I am a coupe guy!!!

mickey356 05-29-2017 06:16 PM

Well, it'll always be a "storied car" at this point so it doesn't really matter what you do it. If you want an SC Targa than you should bring it back one.
And I totally agree with with the above statement that VERY few mods actually make the car nicer.

Matt Monson 05-29-2017 07:48 PM

Before:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1436117626.jpg

After
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455854756.jpg

That's the 74 in my sig. I like to say that I rightdated it.

Victory1 05-29-2017 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveMcKenz (Post 9606005)
That looks like a good project. A restored 79 SC targa is a known entity, and will probably appreciate in value over time. I think you also like the 79 original look or you would not be thinking about this. Most of the time, with a few exceptions, stock will look better than most modified products.
Good luck, and please keep us posted,
Dave


Thanks Dave. I'm just curious what was going through previous owner's mind. Was he thinking, "No one will know it's really a '79, but think it's a '92" or did he know Porsche connoisseurs could tell?

Victory1 05-29-2017 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75 911s (Post 9605892)
I think you're on the right track. The 964 stuff has to go. Could be like a speedster hot rod look if you want. I think you have license to mod at this point.

Speedester hot rod look sounds intriguing. I'd have to see some photos..

Victory1 05-29-2017 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9606124)
Before:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1436117626.jpg

After
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455854756.jpg

That's the 74 in my sig. I like to say that I rightdated it.

I like the term "rightdated." You should put that on a shirt.

T77911S 05-30-2017 03:56 AM

unless its a race car don't be concerned about weight if you are going for a certain look or resto-mod.

also a coupe guy. had a targa but sold it.

I might have left the slant alone.
I have an 86 930, would love to have a slant kit for it, but I would still keep the factory parts.

CBRacerX 05-30-2017 04:38 AM

Yes to the bumper change but leave it a cab. They are more fun (ducks behind nearest tree).


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shadowjack1 05-30-2017 04:55 AM

Victory1. I think that you are going in the right direction. Are you going to repaint?

Matt Monson 05-30-2017 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T77911S (Post 9606299)
I might have left the slant alone.
I have an 86 930, would love to have a slant kit for it, but I would still keep the factory parts.

I seriously considered it. It was all steel. But I hate black cars and it was originally Gulf blue, which is wife's favorite color. I just wish it was a targa.

Flojo 05-30-2017 07:31 AM

slant nose as targa look weird, it has no homogene contour at all

nvr2mny 05-30-2017 07:45 AM

Not to hi-jack, but I have that slant kit from Matt for sale....

Victory1, do a search for speedster conversions on here, there are some VERY nice examples out there. The good news for you is 'the damage is done' i.e.; storied. You have a blank slate. There are even some really cool long hood speedster conversions out there. Have fun and make it what YOU want it to be!

Victory1 05-30-2017 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowjack1 (Post 9606334)
Victory1. I think that you are going in the right direction. Are you going to repaint?

Yes, I'll be repainting, Shadowjack1. Still not sure about the color though

Matt Monson 05-30-2017 12:00 PM

Was it originally guards red or something else? Did it have the chrome trim like your "before" picture?

If it were me I would get weird with it. What I mean is I would go SWT instead of keeper by it can or a regular targa rear glass.

matthewb0051 05-30-2017 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victory1 (Post 9606214)
Thanks Dave. I'm just curious what was going through previous owner's mind. Was he thinking, "No one will know it's really a '79, but think it's a '92" or did he know Porsche connoisseurs could tell?

My thoughts exactly. Good thing you took it away from that person.

Victory1 05-30-2017 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9606762)
Was it originally guards red or something else? Did it have the chrome trim like your "before" picture?

If it were me I would get weird with it. What I mean is I would go SWT instead of keeper by it can or a regular targa rear glass.

Yes I believe it was originally guards red. Maybe not with the chrome trim.

By the way what do you think about the chrome trim on the windshield for a cabriolet?

Victory1 05-30-2017 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 9606770)
My thoughts exactly. Good thing you took it away from that person.

I'm glad too. It's different buying a fixer vs. a finished product. Make no mistake it's not cheaper buying the fixer.


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