Need some opinions on a few things

[Trakrat]

Does anyone know what tool I can use to take this off?? an open ended wrench won't allow me to fit it on due to the fins. Need something like a closed end wrench with just enough cut out for the wire to slip through??



I noticed some corrosion when I removed my thermostat(?)... should I be concerned about this?

[tirwin]

What size is the nut? How about a flare nut wrench?

I am slowly investing in better tools. I am learning the hard way that better wrenches are thinner on the ends and the cheaper ones are fatter. Sometimes makes a big difference in situations like this.

I’ve also seen a tool that looks like a thin flare wrench end on the end of a screwdriver handle. That’s my guess as to what was used. I’m sure there is a name for it.

[Flojo]

Originally Posted by Trakrat

Does anyone know what tool I can use to take this off?? an open ended wrench won't allow me to fit it on due to the fins. Need something like a closed end wrench with just enough cut out for the wire to slip through??

this:
closed end wrench with just enough cut out for the wire to slip through

[Trakrat]

Originally Posted by tirwin

What size is the nut? How about a flare nut wrench?

I am slowly investing in better tools. I am learning the hard way that better wrenches are thinner on the ends and the cheaper ones are fatter. Sometimes makes a big difference in situations like this.

I’ve also seen a tool that looks like a thin flare wrench end on the end of a screwdriver handle. That’s my guess as to what was used. I’m sure there is a name for it.

Flare nut wrench... that's what I needed... the right name the tool is called.

I'm also finding that the cheaper tools fit better on these tight spaces.
The difficult part about rebuilding an engine is trying to find the right tool for that 1 special job.

[Trakrat]

Originally Posted by Flojo

this:
closed end wrench with just enough cut out for the wire to slip through

Thanks flo.... not wanting to cut up one of my tools though.

[Flojo]

Originally Posted by Trakrat

Thanks flo.... not wanting to cut up one of my tools though.

oh well, they actually do come handy quite a fey times.
by now I have about every wrench in double and tripple anyway

[Trakrat]

Originally Posted by Flojo

by now I have about every wrench in double and tripple anyway

HA! It seems I'm ALWAYS needing a 10mm-14mm socket. I probably got 4 of each one that is slightly different than the other.

[proporsche]

Hi..you can go about it two ways.If it is and old type sensor 13mm nut-(not your case) you would just cut the wire and remove with a 14mm socket.Make your self from a old socket tool.Like this one i made for my self.You have to grind along-way so the cable slides in and also cut a little side way so the cable can exit after you use and socket extension...

There is no rust inside your thermostat chamber just an oil deposit looks a like.

Ivan

[LUFTKUL]

Harbor Freight makes near disposable tools:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads26/image1492902494.jpg

[VWLoosenuts]

flare nut wrench

[maxnine11]

[jpnovak]

Yes, buy a cheap set of sockets and wrenches from HF and cut them down as needed. You can also bend them with heat, cut and weld offsets, etc.

I have several "custom" tools made using this method.

[Jesse16]

I did exactly what proporsche did. For removal, just cut the wire and use the correct deep socket. To install, could be a different size socket so cut anything you have that fits. No big torque here, think I even used an old cheapie SAE size socket that was gathering dust. It fit this nut just fine.
Mine came out easy.
What are those lower two photos of ? Not the head temp well.

[proporsche]

Yup ,i did however use new Snap on socket but it served me well for the last 32 years;-)

Ivan

[Trakrat]

Originally Posted by Jesse16

What are those lower two photos of ? Not the head temp well.

This is where I removed the engine oil thermostat.

The lower lip inside looks like some kind of corrosion that is starting to happen where the plated/anodized area should be....

[Trakrat]

Originally Posted by proporsche

There is no rust inside your thermostat chamber just an oil deposit looks a like.

Ivan

Thanks Ivan...

[yelcab1]

You know, if you are afraid of cutting up your tools to make something fit, you are going to have a very hard time with automotive repairs. And don't modify cheap socket or wrenches. You are making an ill fitting tool even worse. Cut up a good tool like Craftsman or similar. For that head temp sensor, even a well fitting flare nut wrench is not enough. I cut the wires, use a long socket, and it comes off, and replace the sensor on the way back.

[douglas bray]

I've made several slotted deep 13mm Craftsman sockets over the years and sent them out to guys to do their HTC. Now I own a milling machine and could really go to town....Hmmmm....

[yelcab1]

Originally Posted by douglas bray

I've made several slotted deep 13mm Craftsman sockets over the years and sent them out to guys to do their HTC. Now I own a milling machine and could really go to town....Hmmmm....

A micro mill or full size mill?

[Trakrat]

Originally Posted by yelcab1

You know, if you are afraid of cutting up your tools to make something fit, you are going to have a very hard time with automotive repairs. And don't modify cheap socket or wrenches. You are making an ill fitting tool even worse. Cut up a good tool like Craftsman or similar. For that head temp sensor, even a well fitting flare nut wrench is not enough. I cut the wires, use a long socket, and it comes off, and replace the sensor on the way back.

is this sensor something that goes bad or is fairly cheap to replace?
I'm surprised to see a few responses of just tossing out the sensor and buying a new one.