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| Bandwidth AbUser Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal 
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			Jason, if this happened to you with your 914, I would've thought you'd be a lot more careful the second time around with your SC. Asking people to paint your car and then taking them to court hecause the shade isn't what you thought is not a good strategy. It's better to have them show you a paint sample before moving forward. This is pretty rough on the shop painting your cars (especially since they tried so hard to do a nice job for you) as they end up eating the cost of the paint and labor to avoid your suits. Think of them while you're thinking of yourself.
		 
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|  02-14-2003, 02:10 PM | 
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			Jason- Are you trying to say that the color on the 959 model is the correct color for your car???? I hope I misunderstood you here! 
				__________________ Bill 69 911 T Targa, 2.4E w/carbs (1985-2001) 70 911 S Coupe, 2nd owner (1989- 2015) 73 911 T Targa, 3.2 Motronic (2001- ) | ||
|  02-14-2003, 02:14 PM | 
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			believe me ther is nothing i want more than to pay them for the right job, i hate this *****. but one thing is for sure, its not my fault they didnt get the color right. and yes the color on the model is the right color
		 
				__________________ Jason 81 SC 97 328is 87 Jeep Comanche (RIP) | ||
|  02-14-2003, 02:17 PM | 
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			I plan on getting my SC painted in the future and I am very concerned about the correct shade/tint, for that reason I definitely plan on having samples done before my car gets an inch of sanding, if no perfect match, no paint job. The big problem that you have, IMO, is that the before pic of your car does not look like Rosewood Metallic, and the description you have given of the final result does. I realise that digital photos can lie a little, but your "before" pictures look much browner than any R.M. I have ever seen. Maybe someone else w/ R.M. on this board can post a picture and clear this up for you. Only explanation that comes to mind is that your car had a complete respray in the past w/ a slight color change. Is this possible?   | ||
|  02-14-2003, 02:19 PM | 
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			one side was repainted and one was orig. 4 months ago i got rear ended lightly in this car. i took the car to and ordinary body shop for the repair and they matched the color perfectly and he said he used the color code to formulate the paint. when i get a few samples all will be told then. if im crazy ill know it then. i have a feeling that the samples will be different than the color on the car now
		 
				__________________ Jason 81 SC 97 328is 87 Jeep Comanche (RIP) | ||
|  02-14-2003, 02:31 PM | 
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			Post some pics of the "after" paintjob, please.
		 
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			tomorrow im gettting it back. pics will go up soon after. check out this link with two differnet names for the same. look at 474 for 81 and 82. http://www.928gt.com/928specs/Paintcode.htm 
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|  02-14-2003, 02:34 PM | 
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			Jason, The codes you are looking at are for model 928 Porsche, and will NOT be the same for model 911 colors. Your car was NOT painted at the factory with a 928 color, was it?? 
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|  02-14-2003, 02:39 PM | 
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			there is a sticker under the decklid that says 474 palisander metallic 
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| It'll be legen-waitforit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada 
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			Interesting thread and a good education (for us). I would say though that I have never seen a Porsche paint job that metallic and the color on the 959.  That's not to say it's not possible, just I'm shocked Porsche would have used that much flake..... 
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|  02-14-2003, 02:53 PM | 
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			man that sucks,  i feel bad when i print a customers shirt order with the wrong ink color, i cant imagine a screw up like that. just a side note, i will never again get a car painted without also doing the jambs, door openings, what ever else will be seen so there are no color differences anywhere. hope you get it worked out. | ||
|  02-14-2003, 02:57 PM | 
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			I am getting my car painted too 1) factory used a 1 stage paint, now a days paint shops use 2 stage because it is easier to work with. the formulas do not always match up 2) always get a sampple...and even a sample won't tell you what it will look on the whole car 3) don't burn bridges... what I would do...get a used panel, go to another paint shop[ and ask them to spray you a sample of the color you want...if it is the same was what your 1st shop did it either your fault for supplying the wring paint code, or both are making the same mixing mistake....if the second shop gets it right, then you pursue the first shop more agressively. maybe you and the paint shop can come up with a heavily discounted second paintjob if you can prove that both parties were partially at fault good luck MJ | ||
|  02-14-2003, 03:00 PM | 
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			they are giving me the left over paint. im going to get a sample on my own, a couple actually, and make sure the color is wrong. that is the first step. if the color is right, end of story. if the color is wrong ill file a small claims case. i dont now if i want them to repaint the car after all that stuff. there is a couple places i could go to have it redone for the same price and quality. truthfully ill probably live with the new color regardless of any court case. 
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|  02-14-2003, 03:06 PM | 
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			Well you need to get the code thing straight.  If he got a code and painted to that code, it's not his problem, is it?
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|  02-14-2003, 03:07 PM | 
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			If the color is close, you're probably sol.  They obviously put time and money into making the car look good, like you contracted for.  You will have to pay them for that.  As far as the color being a bit off, you may be entitled to slight compensation.  Because you were not involved in "approving" a color sample, you may have to live with this beautiful paint work.
		 
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|  02-14-2003, 03:37 PM | 
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			Found this at http://www.landsharkoz.com/htm/colourred.htm, hope it helps. It says it is for a 928: Palisander Rosewood 524 - 1981 474 - 1982       
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|  02-14-2003, 03:44 PM | 
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			i know, and some people have real problems huh? not the biggest deal in the world, but somewhat upsetting. im paying for the car in full. im not going to bicker with them while my car is held hostage. its about due for and oil change and valve adjustment :-) 
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|  02-14-2003, 03:46 PM | 
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			see, im not crazy. that 928 looks just like that 959. the color i love, unforunately my car is NOT that color arggggggggg!!!!!
		 
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			Did you take any "after" pictures yet?
		 
				__________________ Keith Drive Hard and Fast 1991 Carrera 2 Targa 1972 911T Coupe 1971 914 | ||
|  02-14-2003, 03:47 PM | 
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			pics are coming tomorrow. that will revive this thread once its dead
		 
				__________________ Jason 81 SC 97 328is 87 Jeep Comanche (RIP) | ||
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