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rwest 02-24-2018 10:40 AM

Inductive Heating Tool for Removing Rusted Nuts
 
Knew that I would need to heat up the exhaust nuts to remove with out breaking any studs from reading all the broken exhaust stud threads were the highly respected John Walker always posts to heat them cherry red and they come right off.

Thought about getting an oxyacetylene torch, but not really looking to catch my car, house or myself on fire I recalled a mechanic at work talking about an inductive heating tool, so did an Amazon search and found that it got great reviews, so bought one and just used it on my haven’t been removed exchanger nuts in over 27 years.

Didn’t break a single one! Tool fit into the tight recesses- sometimes not completely able to encircle the nut, but still worked.

Judging by how thin the non threaded portion is, Id have to believe they would have snapped under just wrench force.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519501105.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519501125.jpg

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rwest 02-24-2018 10:44 AM

Here’s the link about $400 https://www.amazon.com/Bolt-Buster-BB2-ACC-Handheld-Induction/dp/B00ATSL7VE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519501332&sr=8-1&keywords=inductive+heating+tool

boyt911sc 02-24-2018 10:52 AM

Impressive heating tool.....
 
Rutager,

That is an impressive heating tool specially useful with the engine is installed. Is that a 110-volt plug-in heater? What brand do you have? Thanks.

Tony

jpnovak 02-24-2018 10:53 AM

Great find!

rwest 02-24-2018 11:01 AM

Bolt buster is the brand. Plugs into regular household outlet 120V, hold a button down for about thirty seconds and she’s glowing nicely.

pmax 02-24-2018 12:44 PM

Cool.
People are still finding new uses for Faraday's discovery !

evan9eleven 02-24-2018 02:00 PM

Crap! Another tool I want now. Cool find!

Jack Stands 02-24-2018 02:00 PM

Seems like a great tool to have around and safer than using a torch.

jjeffries 02-24-2018 02:28 PM

I learned about those recently from a thread on FChat. The ability to match the heat from an oxy-acetilyne torch without the associated fire risk is huge. I was once a service manager at a dealership where the shop went up in flames due to an (idiot) mechanic lighting an o/a torch next to another tech who'd just opened-up a BMW high pressure fuel pump. One of those perspective-altering experiences. John.

Otter74 02-24-2018 02:32 PM

If this didn't cost $400 (!), I'd already have one on order.

porschyard 02-24-2018 02:42 PM

inductive heater
 
i have used a smoke wrench for decades but dayuumm that is cool, gun git me won dem

rwest 02-24-2018 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter74 (Post 9939892)
If this didn't cost $400 (!), I'd already have one on order.

Yup, kind of pricey, but not breaking a single stud and the associated cost, time and headache I “could” throw it away right now and still feel like it was a bargain.

faverymi 02-24-2018 02:54 PM

Do you see it working on axle nuts, ball joints and all that bigger stuff???

rwest 02-24-2018 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faverymi (Post 9939915)
Do you see it working on axle nuts, ball joints and all that bigger stuff???

I would think so, they include about a half dozen of the wire piece with different inside diameters; a couple are pretty big.

They can be custom bent to fit loosely around the part you are working on. I used a straight wire that was in the kit to get the proper loops for the exhaust bolts.

rwest 02-24-2018 04:15 PM

Biggest wire loop would fit 45mm.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519521355.jpg

Geneman 02-24-2018 04:38 PM

that is cooler than snot!! thanks for posting!

SkunkWorks 02-24-2018 07:12 PM

Where was this thread a year ago when I did my SSI install???

Seriously cool tool, thanks for sharing.

Bill Douglas 02-24-2018 07:22 PM

Beats the hell outa lying on your back with a drill trying to remove reminants of studs.

rwest 02-24-2018 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkunkWorks (Post 9940201)
Where was this thread a year ago when I did my SSI install???

Seriously cool tool, thanks for sharing.

I know, I searched here to see if anyone had posted about this type of tool and came up empty. I was actually surprised the thing worked so darn well, just seemed too gimmicky.

rwest 02-24-2018 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 9940206)
Beats the hell outa lying on your back with a drill trying to remove reminants of studs.

That was my nightmare- I have never once had good luck drilling out a broken bolt or stud.

Dpmulvan 02-25-2018 04:09 AM

$400 for $5 worth of electrical components??

reed930 02-25-2018 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dpmulvan (Post 9940339)
$400 for $5 worth of electrical components??

Exactly what I was thinking. Looks like they're using leftover caulk cartridges for the housing too. Seriously, these can't cost more than $20 or so to produce.

RDM 02-25-2018 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reed930 (Post 9940347)
Exactly what I was thinking. Looks like they're using leftover caulk cartridges for the housing too. Seriously, these can't cost more than $20 or so to produce.

Excellent business opportunity! Jump right in!

I'll buy your first one for $50.

reed930 02-25-2018 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDM (Post 9940445)
Excellent business opportunity! Jump right in!

I'll buy your first one for $50.

Don't know if that's a joke or not, but I'm not currently in the manufacturing industry.

Munky King 02-25-2018 07:57 AM

Great find rwest.
The amount of work you are doing to your car is putting me to shame!

boyt911sc 02-25-2018 08:07 AM

You got a buyer.........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reed930 (Post 9940347)
Exactly what I was thinking. Looks like they're using leftover caulk cartridges for the housing too. Seriously, these can't cost more than $20 or so to produce.




Reed,

I will even double Dru’s offer. Make one for $100 and you have a customer. Did you see the numbers of the heating filaments that came with the unit?

Tony

rwest 02-25-2018 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munky King (Post 9940539)
Great find rwest.
The amount of work you are doing to your car is putting me to shame!

And you’re close enough to borrow all the tools I’m collecting!

reed930 02-25-2018 10:00 AM

Really? How expensive is it to bend up some pieces of nichrome wire? I'm seriously asking?

pmax 02-25-2018 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reed930 (Post 9940708)
Really? How expensive is it to bend up some pieces of nichrome wire? I'm seriously asking?

I'm quite sure the "tube" has a transformer and some electrical smarts and safety systems built into it.

But yeah, once figured out, most things are dirt cheap to make these days.

reed930 02-25-2018 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 9940714)
I'm quite sure the "tube" has a transformer and some electrical smarts and safety systems built into it.

But yeah, once figured out, most things are dirt cheap to make these days.

Last week I bought an IP68 borescope with a 10 meter line and 1080p resolution for $27. 27! Ten years ago, it would have cost 100 times that. And that instrument is quite a bit more complex than what is essentially a portable electric stove. I don't mean to take anything away from the concept, just pointing out that the price is ridiculous.

RDM 02-25-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reed930 (Post 9940473)
Don't know if that's a joke or not, but I'm not currently in the manufacturing industry.

It's two things. First, it was a nod to all the ingenuity that members of this board put into making new products for our benefit, from steering wheel bushings to LED light packages to all the rest. If you're that sort of person, my message was an encouragement to make it, and we will buy. Making things is hard, and more expensive than it seems. Those who do it deserve our respect, and if you know enough to produce that product at at 1/20th the cost it's sold elsewhere, you deserve our admiration and patronage.

If you're not that sort of person and you were just spouting off, it was mocking sarcasm, straight up. And having said that, I apologize for my unkindness.

RDM 02-25-2018 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 9940549)
Reed,

I will even double Dru’s offer. Make one for $100 and you have a customer. Did you see the numbers of the heating filaments that came with the unit?

Tony

Ooh! A bidding war! Pelican turned into BaT so quickly I didn't even notice!

I'll go $120, Tony. Top that.

Or better yet, I'll let you buy it and borrow it from your tool library!

Munky King 02-25-2018 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 9940628)
And you’re close enough to borrow all the tools I’m collecting!

Thank you :D

rwest 02-25-2018 12:46 PM

As far as pricing goes, I knew the price I was paying and what I was supposed to be getting for that money- my expectations were met and I got a quick, simple and perfect result. Doesn’t matter if it had only a nickel in parts to me.

The thing with a specialized tool is that the company can’t sell enough to get an economy of scale and without a huge market there won’t be a lot of competition to drive prices either. If every household needed one, they would be $50 to $100 and lots of brands to choose from.

I figured a torch would have been about the same price, but it would come with a learning curve and additional safety issues. Although the torch would have more uses beyond heating my nuts.

Jonny H 02-25-2018 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 9940890)
The thing with a specialized tool is that the company can’t sell enough to get an economy of scale and without a huge market there won’t be a lot of competition to drive prices either. If every household needed one, they would be $50 to $100 and lots of brands to choose from.

Yep, same true with custom parts designed for our cars.

Tell you what, if you can get a group buy together for 100,000 CDI+ boxes, they'd be $50 each. You'd all get a bargain and I can retire. :D:D:D

rwest 02-25-2018 02:51 PM

One other thing that pleasantly surprised me as I try not to buy stuff from China- not easy these days, but I do try.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519602700.jpg

reed930 02-25-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDM (Post 9940780)
If you're not that sort of person and you were just spouting off, it was mocking sarcasm, straight up. And having said that, I apologize for my unkindness.

Now I get it. In your world, you either bend over or start your own manufacturing company. No place for observation about price, value, etc. In any event, some people have built their own with off-the-shelf parts. There was a discussion on Garage Journal below. Who knows, maybe I'll build my own. Maybe someone else will see a business opportunity and offer them for a more reasonable price. Probably wouldn't be made here though.

All that managed without mocking sarcasm. Straight up.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352769

jjeffries 02-25-2018 04:49 PM

Come now, gentlemen. So much conflict and tension all around us, let's keep this nice little corner of our world civil and fun. John.

jac1976 02-25-2018 05:01 PM

I also try to buy USA made products. There are similar products from China that retail for $120 +/-.

jac1976 02-25-2018 05:04 PM

I was incorrect. That price is for a set of coils.


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