Indischrot Red and Guards Red

[IXLOR8]

What is the difference between these reds? Which is brighter red and orange/red?

2006 Porsche Indischrot has more Yellow and Purple in formula.

2003 Porsche Guards Red has more black and purple in the formula.

I am looking at
PPG 75442 Indischrot Red
PPG 72060 Guards Red

[87coupe]

I was under the impression it was the same. My car is Indischrot Red ... paintscratch.com has both colors as the same ... kinda confusing?

[IXLOR8]

PPG has two formulas.

[87coupe]

Lol, yeah I gathered that from your first post

[exponence]

I ever thought Indischrot is the german name, and guardsred the english..and its basicly the same color??

Maybe they changed the formula over the years?


Jo

[williecoyote]

I asked the same question a few months ago, and the consensus was that they are the same. I have not compared the formulas though.
Indishrot in english is India Red.

I have had my car for 11 years, and for most of that time, I thought it was Guards Red. I found a small can of Porsche touch up paint in the glove box which was labelled Indishrot. In my mind, I just figured the P.O. was a dumba$$, and bought the wrong touch up paint. Then I went to have some parts painted to match, and that's when this thing came up again. The painter said that when he looked up my paint code, there were two different "recipes" and he was able to determine that the one was more appropriate than the other.
At this point, I honestly don't know what color my car is other than it is red.

[89911]

same

[Super_Dave_D]

Thats kind of strange - my touch up paint says Guard Red.

[IXLOR8]

Very interesting . .

2006 Porsche Boxster color is listed as Guards Red on OEM brochure and listed as Indischot Red on PPG website.

Same PPG formula for many years.


72060 027 guards red porsche 1973 - 2003


72060 27 guards red porsche 1973 - 2003


72060 G1 guards red porsche 1973 - 2003


72060 G8 guards red porsche 1973 - 2003


72060 L027 guards red porsche 1973 - 2003


72060 L80K guards red porsche 1973 - 2003


72060 LM3A guards red porsche 1973 - 2003


75442 G1 indischrot porsche 1995 - 2006


75442 L84A indischrot porsche 1995 - 2006

[IXLOR8]

www.ppgcarpaint.com

[Peter Bull]

I think the name stems from an english military unit called the indian guards. The soldiers in the indian guards had red uniforms. Or something to that extent. Therefore the name in german is indisch rot and in english is guards red.

As Will says, the color recipes however have changed somewhat over the years. An '84 model guards red is not necessarily the same colour as a '91 model guards red. Kind of like an '84 modell 911 is not the same as a '91 modell 911.

[88911coupe]

Sort of related but what is the red Porsche had a long time ago that's more of a "blue" red. The pics I saw appeared to be similar to what BMW calls Imola Red. It's really nice but I think it was very rare.

[JohnJL]

They are not the same. My car is Indisch Rot, we tried to match the paint for the new tail today and Guard's Red was definately wrong. Indisch was correct.

[Paulporsche]

JohnJL,

When you compared the 2 did you find, for example , that the indisch was brighter and/or more orangey than the guards? Or vice versa? That really is his question.

[onboost]

JohnJL is correct they are different and I've had both.

In my opinion the India red is richer & deeper red when laid down nicely with a 2 stage paint. The gurds red appears more "orangey" to me.

If you're looking for an orangey red, try BMW Henna rot

[tmsautoart]

They ARE the same! The differences you are seeing is from the tinting process throught the years. When you look at paint chips to match a color, they might have 4 or 5 of the "same" color chips all slightly different. A lighter one a darker one etc. Remember there is a human behind that counter tinting that paint.
Also, the India red and Guards red names: The color is what the British soldiers that occupied India in the late 1800's and early 1900's wore, hence the India or Guards red.

[tmsautoart]

Just ran out to the garage to get these. The first should answer the question if they are the same or not. The second is an example of why some of you are seeing colors that appear to be different. This is 2 versions (variants) of the same color: Grand Prix white. I have Guards red out there somewhere, but you get what I mean. So, if you just had the paint shop mix a formula for "Grand Prix White", it may be the one on top, which is slightly darker (I know it's hard to see in a scan) or the one on the bottom, which is lighter. You would paint the "whatever piece " take it home, put it on the car and it wouldn't match. Hope this helps.

[tmsautoart]

also remember that different primers will affect the color as well. Red looks brighter sprayed over a tan/yellow primer vs. a grey primer. Some of those greys are pretty dark and can make red look more "bluish" or "purple" The tan primer can make the red appear a brighter "oranger" red.

[onboost]

Originally Posted by tmsautoart

The first should answer the question if they are the same or not. The second is an example of why some of you are seeing colors that appear to be different. This is 2 versions (variants) of the same color: Grand Prix white. I have Guards red out there somewhere, but you get what I mean. So, if you just had the paint shop mix a formula for "Grand Prix White", it may be the one on top, which is slightly darker (I know it's hard to see in a scan)

Or one should know which color code they are looking for as each should be slightly different and provide for a given formula, mix/tint to get the shade that you desire.

[tmsautoart]

correct. One of the best ways to do a color match is to actually take a part of the car to get scanned. Usually the gas flap .