Any Feedback On Coil Over Setup For The Street

[flyn-hawn]

The newest car already has a g50 in an early car with rear coilovers, so we will be doing a full coilover suspension. Looking for a comfortable compliant ride, aggressive canyon driving, tours and rallys, NOT an autocross or race setup.

Have been looking at doing the bilstein conversion thru elephant or rebel racing, or the elephant von shock, kw, jrz and moton.

Looking for any input, as stated earlier this would be a street setup and am looking for feedback related to that, thanks.

[Cory M]

Dave, Ira at Tarett is local and sells JRZ and Bilstein. The tunability of the JRZs is great, but I wonder how many people ever adjust them on their street cars. JRZ also need to be rebuilt more frequently in my experience. I think for most people a set of properly valved Bilsteins is plenty. The KW are an interesting new addition. I have KW on my daily driver Audi wagon and they have been good.

[Bill Verburg]

For street use the racing shocks are expensive overkill

What would be worth doing if the shocks come w/ linear valving is is rebuild even if new w/ a digressive valve stack matched to the springs rate and chassis weight.

You'll want to work w/ a shop or knowledgeable tuner. Elephant would be a great place to work w/. But I'm sure than where you live there are lots of other choices. Bilstein does all their N. American rebuilds right there in San Diego,

[Duc Hunter]

I have coil overs from Clint at Rebel Racing and love the setup. I talked to him live, told him its a street car, I wanted it to perform well but it was first and foremost a street car, and it it did a track day, I would not be irritated that is had "street suspension". I would call him.

[JonT]

what's the benefit over traditional torsion bar/revalved Bilstein setup?

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by JonT

what's the benefit over traditional torsion bar/revalved Bilstein setup?

For the stated use? He gets to say "Yo, I have coilovers" at Starbucks.

[Duc Hunter]

My coil over car is much more supple over bumps, esp sharp hits, than my torsion bar car. Esp at a lower ride height. Plus with coil overs I can adjust my ride height far more easily. My torsion bar car has new Bilstein HD struts too. Torsion bars and coils just feel different.

Keep in mind with coil over your should reenforce the rear shock tops, Esp if you completely remove the torsion bars. My coil over car also got 935 rear training arms, as there is no torsion bar.

[tctnd]

Ease of adjustment is the only real advantage of coilovers. TB suspension actually has less unsprung mass.

regards,
Phil

[Canada Kev]

Originally Posted by Duc Hunter

My coil over car is much more supple over bumps, esp sharp hits, than my torsion bar car. Esp at a lower ride height. Plus with coil overs I can adjust my ride height far more easily. My torsion bar car has new Bilstein HD struts too. Torsion bars and coils just feel different.

I think that might just be shock valving differences that make them seem different. I believe that with all other factors being equal, spring rate (and no progressives) and damping, new bushings, etc, there wouldn't be much if any difference. There's not many people who would just change the springs without modifying other stuff, so it's very difficult to compare them in a head to head face off.

[Trackrash]

Only coil overs in the rear? Interesting. The advantage to coil overs, in addition to what has been mentioned, is the fact that you can get way stiffer than what torsion bars allow.

Do you know what spring rate you have in the rear? What front torsions are on the car?

[3rd_gear_Ted]

Is another set of ride height springs involved on the rear coil overs??
Best check the rake angle of the car after the change to coil overs.

[flyn-hawn]

Originally Posted by Trackrash

Only coil overs in the rear? Interesting. The advantage to coil overs, in addition to what has been mentioned, is the fact that you can get way stiffer than what torsion bars allow.

Do you know what spring rate you have in the rear? What front torsions are on the car?

Only coil overs in the rear at the moment. I do not know the spring rates or tbars yet, just got the car Saturday.

[Elombard]

I am currently installing Elephant bearings and polybronze bushings on a car and one huge advantage that occurs to me based on the install is the ability to use 935 style suspension arms and joints everywhere. Slight NVH increase I hear but on a hot rod not a big issue.

The advantage is the elimination of ALL binding and friction in the system. No big bushings to bend in multiple axis just super smooth operation with ALL damping and control from the dampers. With a bit of tuning a very nice ride can be achieved.

[Flojo]

Originally Posted by emcon5

for the stated use? He gets to say "yo, i have coilovers" at starbucks.

lol

[sandiego]

Talk to Jay Lee at Mirage off Miramar Rd.