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RocketWrench 03-30-2018 02:57 PM

Show me your Instrument cluster upgrade!
 
Ive currently been restoring my car and went for some upgrades to the clocks.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522446717.jpg

These are the original clocks with a logo added and in the retro green lettering.

Iv'e also changed the lenses to convex lenses ground down from acrylic clock lenses.

My current issue is that I am struggling to find any Chrome bezel rings for the dash. I can find many Aluminium but the sharpness of chrome is what I need.

So, show me your photos of your customised dash..

Andy Somogyi 03-30-2018 04:54 PM

This is not mine, but I WANT it. Really clever idea of a combo gauge.

I’d like one of these, and I’d make a combo boost / head temp gauge to replace the gas tank gauge.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=238774

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Andy Somogyi 03-30-2018 05:03 PM

I’m going to start by saying I DID NOT DO THIS!!!

The previous owner replaced the clock and fuel gauge with heater vents from a Ford F-150. He seemed obsessed with air blowing on him.

This is my 912e, and is going 911 style as soon as I get to it. This is really ugly.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d980ca7762.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...68c816a720.jpg




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mepstein 03-30-2018 05:12 PM

Gauge set for my 914-6. Led backlight with a small remote to change backlight color and intensity.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522455136.jpg

Bergo 03-30-2018 06:59 PM

not as extensive as other, but I upgraded my gauge back lights to LED's, much nicer. Used the kit from a member on here, carmagic.us or something?

https://i.imgur.com/0cdNo4Uh.jpg

Andy Somogyi 03-30-2018 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mepstein (Post 9982521)
Gauge set for my 914-6. Led backlight with a small remote to change backlight color and intensity.


Nice!

Where did you get that triple gauge ?


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famoroso 03-30-2018 10:15 PM

Cleaned up face design by removing logos, icons and extraneous markings, including KMH scale. Rally hand delete and minute markers deleted (a bit of a nod to 964 / 993 clock face). Integrated voltmeter a la 930 boost gauge. LED lighting. Couldn't be happier with the result.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522472488.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522472596.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522473152.jpg

RocketWrench 03-31-2018 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bergo (Post 9982635)
not as extensive as other, but I upgraded my gauge back lights to LED's, much nicer. Used the kit from a member on here, carmagic.us or something?

https://i.imgur.com/0cdNo4Uh.jpg

I have the same LED setup...

Tbone1209 03-31-2018 09:21 AM

something to aspire to
 
I'll just post these pics of Hong Kong 1, the Singer, for inspiration. Amazinghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522513283.gif
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522513283.gif
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522513283.gif

mreid 03-31-2018 11:51 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522522050.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522522050.jpg

Tremelune 03-31-2018 12:38 PM

I love silver metal gauge rings, but even the Singers are bit too honking for me. I'd love a set of those, but a bit thinner or shorter, perhaps. Is that proprietary Singer stuff or do they just spec 'em to North Hollywood, et al?

Canada Kev 03-31-2018 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremelune (Post 9983263)
I love silver metal gauge rings, but even the Singers are bit too honking for me. I'd love a set of those, but a bit thinner or shorter, perhaps. Is that proprietary Singer stuff or do they just spec 'em to North Hollywood, et al?


The Singers are probably special. I don't know if those rings could be made shorter. Even the factory black rings are pretty deep.

Here's another from that workshop but from a different HK car, number 10. How many Singers are there now? On every corner just about...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522525397.jpg

kavadarci 03-31-2018 06:30 PM

For what is worth. My setup with red inserts and new glass.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522546133.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522546205.jpg

Munky King 04-01-2018 05:59 AM

Not mine, but saved in my ever growing inspiration pic collection.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522587279.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522587279.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522587279.JPG
The colours seem to work well together - steering wheel colour being picked out in the ring colour and the gear knob coming along for the ride. The dash 911 badge also working with the ring colour and that ties in to the wheels.
Seems to work with the leather details too. :cool:

This is the rear shelf of the same car
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522587508.JPG
The Porsche lettering the same detail colour and more of the leather strap.
Not very racer, but pretty classy!

matthewb0051 04-01-2018 11:46 AM

Best upgrade was LED instrument lights from Carmagic. The owner, Englebert, is a Pelican (I believe he is Rothaus on this forum).

You can actually see your instruments at night with the LEDs. He has a vintage yellowish look and a white look bulb.

Tremelune 04-01-2018 11:56 AM

I always liked the reddish lighting of BMW gauges, the benefit purportedly being that red light is better for night vision, but it probably doesn't have much effect in a car with headlights on a public road...

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/28/bmw-x4-toyota-tacoma-gauge-illumination/

I fear installing LEDs, 'cause I usually have my gauges at a very dim setting at night, and LEDs are always sold as being brighter than the incandescents they replace. I guess there's always inline resistors, but the (negligible, insignificant) inefficiency is a bummer.

The big problem at night is having dim gauges and a blindingly-bright blue high beam indicator...I assume indicator lights can't be dimmed for legal reasons, but ugh.

http://clavinzero.com/misc/gauges-325is-red-light.jpg

69porsche 04-01-2018 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremelune (Post 9984384)
I always liked the reddish lighting of BMW gauges, the benefit purportedly being that red light is better for night vision, but it probably doesn't have much effect in a car with headlights on a public road...

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/28/bmw-x4-toyota-tacoma-gauge-illumination/

I fear installing LEDs, 'cause I usually have my gauges at a very dim setting at night, and LEDs are always sold as being brighter than the incandescents they replace. I guess there's always inline resistors, but the (negligible, insignificant) inefficiency is a bummer.

The big problem at night is having dim gauges and a blindingly-bright blue high beam indicator...I assume indicator lights can't be dimmed for legal reasons, but ugh.

http://clavinzero.com/misc/gauges-325is-red-light.jpg

Carmagic has vintage cool white LED dash lights, it's not blinding and it plug and play-suggest you see their website and take a chance.

ecostellodo 04-01-2018 02:23 PM

https://i.imgur.com/cM6TZ3R.jpg

update of standard gauges in 1970T

Left to right: Fuel/Voltmeter. Temp/Pressure. Tach. Speedo. Clock.

famoroso 04-02-2018 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremelune (Post 9984384)

I fear installing LEDs, 'cause I usually have my gauges at a very dim setting at night, and LEDs are always sold as being brighter than the incandescents they replace. I guess there's always inline resistors, but the (negligible, insignificant) inefficiency is a bummer.

The big problem at night is having dim gauges and a blindingly-bright blue high beam indicator...I assume indicator lights can't be dimmed for legal reasons, but ugh.

I agree. I prefer a dim, but legible, instrument panel, especially for long stretches of unlit road. One of my Saab press cars back in the day had a Night Panel option that shut down most of the gauges and attendant backlighting. Cool.

For your purposes, there's this... Porsche LED Lights | Headlight Relay Kit, Instrument light dimmer, External

RocketWrench 04-06-2018 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munky King (Post 9983984)
Not mine, but saved in my ever growing inspiration pic collection.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522587279.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522587279.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522587279.JPG
The colours seem to work well together - steering wheel colour being picked out in the ring colour and the gear knob coming along for the ride. The dash 911 badge also working with the ring colour and that ties in to the wheels.
Seems to work with the leather details too. :cool:

This is the rear shelf of the same car
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522587508.JPG
The Porsche lettering the same detail colour and more of the leather strap.
Not very racer, but pretty classy!

Where on earth can I find more photos of this car?

'76 911S 3.0 04-06-2018 04:19 PM

This was a non-functional unit used for mock up but now I have a real one to put in place (and now that these are available, I can share this!). There is a mount behind the dash that I designed that utilizes the factory tach rubber ring to hold it in place:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523056538.jpg

Here is the main layout page I designed (looks a lot better on the dash, the software makes things look kind of funky sometimes):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523056661.jpg

DFW_IE 04-06-2018 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketWrench (Post 9991206)
Where on earth can I find more photos of this car?

Check here

http://fueltank.cc/blog/london-outlaw?rq=Porsche

Tremelune 04-06-2018 07:10 PM

Are there any round LCD gauges that fit the stock location? I like the analog suckers, but there is a lot to be said for customizing a screen for different situations...

If it was OLED with good graphics, one might not even notice...

merlinfe 04-07-2018 10:47 AM

I’ve been searching for a long time for a round screen gauge that can accept video inputs. Short story is, they don’t exist. What would be really nice is if we could have a multi-function guage to replace the clock or speedo with a GPS map that’s switchable to whatever we like. But that’s just me dreaming.

-Steve

seafeye 04-07-2018 11:25 AM

Google round lcd screens. They use a ton of processing power. Ever wonder why the Apple Watch is square. Thankfully Samsung came up with a solution. And offer a round lcd watch. Hopefully in the future they will be able to make larger round screens.

aread 04-07-2018 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 9992280)
Google round lcd screens. They use a ton of processing power. Ever wonder why the Apple Watch is square. Thankfully Samsung came up with a solution. And offer a round lcd watch. Hopefully in the future they will be able to make larger round screens.

Well I learned something new...

seafeye 04-07-2018 12:43 PM

I was looking a couple years ago for a nice round digital display. Then found out it wasn’t going to happen. So I had this made up. It was a GPS speedo. Totally electric, the needle was tied to the processor. So it didn’t have to be hooked up to the transmission or anything. Cool stuff.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523130121.png
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523130197.jpg

RocketWrench 04-08-2018 04:36 AM

Here are some better pictures of my retro homage:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523187311.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523187311.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523187311.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523187311.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523187311.png

JeremyD 04-08-2018 05:21 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523190070.jpg

Years ago I did these on a 1974

billjam 04-08-2018 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '76 911S 3.0 (Post 9991332)
This was a non-functional unit used for mock up but now I have a real one to put in place (and now that these are available, I can share this!). There is a mount behind the dash that I designed that utilizes the factory tach rubber ring to hold it in place:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523056538.jpg

Here is the main layout page I designed (looks a lot better on the dash, the software makes things look kind of funky sometimes):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523056661.jpg

Jayson, I so want to add something on my dash along the lines of what you have there. Lately I have been doing a lot of MS3X tuning using TunerStudio with my laptop sitting on the passenger seat and I would love to have a configurable dash screen that can utilise some of the gauges and indicators that are available in TS.
The pic below is my laptop screen, so there is no way we could fit all this into the space available, but it would be great to be able to display some of it.
Anyone aware of devices that can be used for this?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523190615.jpg

911tracker85 04-08-2018 07:59 AM

Quote:

So I had this made up. It was a GPS speedo.
seafeye,
where did you get that speedo? my project had a mechanical speedo that went out with the old 915. looking for a proper 930 4 sp now. was wondering about GPS speedo rather than trying to calibrate a speedo driven by the gearbox and who knows what diameter tires I'll eventually have.

also appreciate the pic of your dash. I am at the point of starting to think about putting my 78 SC/930 conversion back together. definitely want to do something custom with the dash, and adding some gauges.

here is your pic right-side-up. :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523199360.jpg

RocketWrench 04-08-2018 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 9992957)

What's the clock on the right?

Munky King 04-08-2018 09:35 AM

Rocketwrench - sorry, I found it a long time ago. I only have these:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523205124.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523205124.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523205124.JPG
In addition to those posted.
I think it was originally a 912 and at the time of the photos, was running under VW power.

Seafeye - would also be interested in the source of your speedo. It could resolve many engine swap / kit car issues I've faced over the years!

somoney311 04-09-2018 01:20 AM

https://www.speedhut.com

TAV 04-09-2018 02:34 AM

Tach
 
Having this one installed this week...
Saves me from rotating the tach... and can set some shift lights.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523266382.jpg

seafeye 04-09-2018 03:43 AM

The dash pic was from my 944 racecar.
The digital/analog speedo was made for me by speed-gun. Not sure they are still in business. Their website is down or not working for me. I liked their product because it allowed me to not have to get info from the transmission. Here is a video to explain more. They would do custom printing on the gauge face as well. Sure hope they are still in business. Great products that worked very well.

https://youtu.be/GgHV3v7ZYDM


Quote:

Originally Posted by 911tracker85 (Post 9993119)
seafeye,
where did you get that speedo? my project had a mechanical speedo that went out with the old 915. looking for a proper 930 4 sp now. was wondering about GPS speedo rather than trying to calibrate a speedo driven by the gearbox and who knows what diameter tires I'll eventually have.

also appreciate the pic of your dash. I am at the point of starting to think about putting my 78 SC/930 conversion back together. definitely want to do something custom with the dash, and adding some gauges.

here is your pic right-side-up. :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523199360.jpg


somoney311 04-09-2018 03:37 PM

The speedhut site worked for me early yesterday but doesn't seem to work now. I was playing with a few of their gauges. They had a lot to work with. You can upload custom images and text to print on the gauges which was pretty cool.

'76 911S 3.0 04-09-2018 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billjam (Post 9992968)
Jayson, I so want to add something on my dash along the lines of what you have there. Lately I have been doing a lot of MS3X tuning using TunerStudio with my laptop sitting on the passenger seat and I would love to have a configurable dash screen that can utilise some of the gauges and indicators that are available in TS.
The pic below is my laptop screen, so there is no way we could fit all this into the space available, but it would be great to be able to display some of it.
Anyone aware of devices that can be used for this?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523190615.jpg

The AEM CD-5 works with the MS3 CAN output, we even have a CAN template already configured for it. You would either create your own layout or utilize one of our existing layouts. The dashes are 100% user configurable so you can display anything you want!

Tremelune 04-09-2018 05:03 PM

Interesting. The Nest thermostat got away from the high cost of non-rectangular screens by using a rectangular screen that they masked to resemble a circle...I wonder if the same technique could be used in place of the tach (a square behind the dash that simply gets cropped into a circle by the bezel on the front).

Maybe one day people will just start slapping old phones behind bezels...The new iPhone X is OLED, but I digress...

JeremyD 04-09-2018 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketWrench (Post 9993203)
What's the clock on the right?

Old VDO Temp gauge usually found in 356's


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