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OsoMoore 05-08-2018 03:21 PM

Re-stitching Dan's Targa Top Edging?
 
My targa top was rebuilt by Dan of CarsInc fame about 6 years ago. I noticed that the stitching holding the edging has started to come undone in a couple spots. The picture below is the most notable area.

Any ideas on how to best remedy this before it worsens would be appreciated.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1525817982.jpg

Bob Kontak 05-08-2018 03:40 PM

Take it to an upholstery shop. Suggest auto or marine vs furniture.

Get the old thread out and re-stitch. You will probably be surprised at the cost. Low. Not high.

30westrob 05-08-2018 03:48 PM

It would be interesting to see what Targa Dan says about that. Rob

Jack Stands 05-08-2018 06:08 PM

I wonder if that top fabric isn’t purchased and then installed by Dan? Either way, the stitching needs to be redone on that vinyl top.

OsoMoore 05-09-2018 08:43 AM

I contacted an area upholstery and was given some contacts for good auto upholstery shops in my area. I will update when I have details/costs for future reference.

rvidal 05-09-2018 10:10 AM

If only a small part, try this yourself. Be sure to match the thread.


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rvidal 05-09-2018 11:34 AM

BTW the needle is a cheap sawing machine needle glued to any wooden end.
These are pictures from a different project, but it can be applied here.

pmax 05-09-2018 12:12 PM

Rvidal,

I continue to marvel at your upholstery handiwork and now photo skills too. Please continue sharing. This is very helpful and might even motivate an all thumbs like me to attempt fixing the seats myself.

carsinc 05-10-2018 10:40 AM

Targa top stitching problem
 
This should not occur. I have seen this only one other time and that is when top was left at body shop sitting out side near exhaust fan. Chemicals just destroyed stitches.

OsoMoore 05-16-2018 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsinc (Post 10032209)
This should not occur. I have seen this only one other time and that is when top was left at body shop sitting out side near exhaust fan. Chemicals just destroyed stitches.

I'm not sure what happened to make it fail. Last night I used outdoor thread and a leather needle and carefully repaired all the areas that were damaged.
In total, there were 7 failed areas with 30 total inches. I am concerned that other areas will also fail. The bad areas were mostly folds, as well as the middle and a few other spots.

I have been driving the car for about 6 years and don't store it in the sun or near chemicals. During winter it is in my garage with the Targa top installed, not folded.

Here are the areas I repaired. It appears the stitching on the top became weak and began ripping out in some places.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1526475738.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1526475782.jpg

carsinc 05-16-2018 07:26 AM

Targa top stitching problem
 
As mentioned I have been doing Targa top rebuilds and have only heard of this twice and both cases were body shop related.

DRACO A5OG 05-16-2018 08:38 AM

Well, sorry to report, it looks like 4 on record, 2 non-body shop or chem related.

Mine popped last night. I was cleaning up after a 5 hour road trip and as I was removing dead insects off of the wind screen, I noticed a loose top stitch at or near the passenger side folding portion:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1526484620.JPG

She is a always garaged unless I am driving her and I rarely if ever fold the top or leave my car at a shop.

Nothing last forever, :-) mine about 6 years.

Dan, if I may, you may need to check/calibrate your sewing machine or consider using a stronger/thicker thread. I would send it to you for repair but Cali to NJ and back would be quite expensive. If anything, maybe offer a repair kit with proper needle size and matching thread?

OsoMoore, where did you get your needle and thread?

theiceman 05-16-2018 08:54 AM

a suggestion of what "possibly" caused it , but no suggestion yet to have it returned and fixed for free as he stands behind his work. ??

pmax 05-16-2018 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 10039153)
I would send it to you for repair but Cali to NJ and back would be quite expensive.

I asked this before but no one answered.

How much was the shipping ? Does it have to be by freight ?

DRACO A5OG 05-16-2018 07:40 PM

Well just looked at my 2013 receipt, UPS ship to him was $20. That ain't bad if he will pay for the return ship.

I guess I can ask Dan but this is my daily and I can stitch it myself for a few dollars. Just need to know what type of thread and needle size.

OsoMoore 05-17-2018 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 10039153)
Well, sorry to report, it looks like 4 on record, 2 non-body shop or chem related.

Mine popped last night. I was cleaning up after a 5 hour road trip and as I was removing dead insects off of the wind screen, I noticed a loose top stitch at or near the passenger side folding portion:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1526484620.JPG

She is a always garaged unless I am driving her and I rarely if ever fold the top or leave my car at a shop.

Nothing last forever, :-) mine about 6 years.

Dan, if I may, you may need to check/calibrate your sewing machine or consider using a stronger/thicker thread. I would send it to you for repair but Cali to NJ and back would be quite expensive. If anything, maybe offer a repair kit with proper needle size and matching thread?

OsoMoore, where did you get your needle and thread?

I went to Jo-ann fabrics and bought a small set of needles that included a "leather needle". I also bought some thread called outdoor or exterior thread. A grizzled veteran at the store helped me pick it out. Also, I obtain a thimble. Total cost $15.
My work isn't beautiful, but I think it was sufficient. I suspect I'll be doing more in the next year or two as more of the original thread deteriorates.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1526563875.jpg

LIRS6 05-17-2018 06:40 AM

... and you chose blue thread because .... ??

Jack Stands 05-17-2018 07:34 AM

Probably best to just do the entire front edge while you’re there. You can assume that the other areas will fail at some time.

OsoMoore 05-17-2018 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LIRS6 (Post 10040275)
... and you chose blue thread because .... ??

Darkest of the colors the fabric store had on hand. Red might have been a nice highlight color.

LIRS6 05-17-2018 08:06 AM

suggestion just to throw some shoe polish on them


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