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gjames 05-26-2018 08:25 AM

New starter now I have ignition problems
 
I just replaced the starter on my 77 911 race car and now the engine will not fire. The car was running fine before the starter replacement. I have an Electromotive dual spark set up. The engine turns over and there is fuel in the carbs, but no fire. I have power at the electromotive four pin connector from the starter post. Ideas?

Litle brother 05-26-2018 09:10 AM

Hi.
A tip: you should not provide power to the Electromotive from the starter, get it directly from the battery, more reliable and safe for the electronics inside the Elctromotive unit.
Regards
Eskild


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RSBob 05-26-2018 09:11 AM

Was the old starter toast or did it somewhat work? If it did work, you might swap it back to see if the issue goes away. Did anything else change with the install? How are your grounds?

gjames 05-26-2018 09:23 AM

The old starter was working...I am checking the ground. If that doesn't work, I will replace to old starter. Stay tuned!!!

gjames 05-26-2018 10:19 AM

I reinstalled the old starter and it worked...fired up. I put the new starter back on and it DID NOT fire up.

RSBob 05-26-2018 05:51 PM

Sounds defective. May want to contact a shop that can test it.

rwest 05-26-2018 06:21 PM

Maybe the new starter pulls too much power and the ignition can’t fire on what’s left? Maybe check voltage while cranking.

tirwin 05-27-2018 04:25 AM

This may be a stupid question but sometimes stupid questions helps to clarify the problem. You're sure the new starter was turning the engine over, right? I'm only asking because I've seen threads where people had issues when changing starters motors where the new pinion was not fulling engaging the ring. Any way you could bench test the new starter?

Assuming it's not a mechanical problem with the starter motor, that only leaves electrical. In that case, I think Rutager may be on to something.

gjames 05-27-2018 06:45 AM

Yes. The motor is turning over with the new starter. Maybe I can use another battery to fire the ignition.

gjames 05-27-2018 08:31 AM

I would use the second battery as a test.

T77911S 05-29-2018 06:56 AM

the starter has the cable from the battery AND the cable from the alt. did you connect the ALT back up to the starter.

gjames 05-29-2018 07:33 AM

Yes. The alternate wire and the battery wire are attached. The ignition wire is also attached at the starter terminal.

T77911S 05-29-2018 09:55 AM

do you have spark

any ground wires you may have removed


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