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vw505 11-04-2003 04:25 PM

forgot to mark the wires
 
i for got to mark the dizzy wires when i pulled the motor . so i have a red and a black one , so whats hot? :rolleyes:

Morrie 11-04-2003 05:17 PM

red and black both go to coil. i am assuming you have a pertronix, or there would just be a black i believe.

red is hot or positive.

vw505 11-04-2003 06:05 PM

it's the wires from the car . i may have hooked them up in reverse and that would explane the smoke .

SteveStromberg 11-04-2003 07:22 PM

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http://www.hillmanimages.com/912/nav_electrical.html
There is a lot of info on this site



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Morrie 11-05-2003 05:40 AM

SMOKE?

http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/vuur.gif

uh..... from what......

Morrie

vw505 11-05-2003 04:54 PM

from inside the dizzy

Morrie 11-05-2003 05:49 PM

Didyou have a pertronix or other type of pointless ignition? If so, its toast....

vw505 11-05-2003 07:05 PM

no it was the points i left the pertonix out till i got it running . i guess i'll get a test light !

Morrie 11-06-2003 05:35 AM

smoke from inside the disty......hmmmm. Next thing I would suggest is to verify you now have your wiring correct and then do a test light based static timing test to see if the points are making/breaking.

ron69912t 11-06-2003 06:06 AM

Petronix
 
As I recall my Petronix instructions said never to leave the ignition switch on for long periods of time without the engine running which could damage (fry) the Petronix unit. That's probaly where your smoke came from.

When I do electrical troubleshooting with the ignition switch on I always disconnect the red wire from the ignition switch at the coil to deactivate the distributorand Pertronix unit.

good luck!

Ron D

Morrie 11-06-2003 06:20 AM

Hey Ron! Have another cup of coffee buddy! ;) VW505 still had his points in....

:D

ron69912t 11-06-2003 09:30 AM

Morrie:
Just trying to be helpful. A word of caution can save you from bundle of trouble. He does own a Pertronix unit.

Do you disconnect your wire to the Dizzy????

Ron

Morrie 11-06-2003 09:44 AM

Was just kiddin Ron, trying to keep it light hearted:(

Yea, reversing the hookups on a pertronix will cook it in a hearbeat from what I am told. Too bad as a strategically placed diode would pop the fuse when power is reversed and save the Pertronix.

Still thinkin of what could smoke in a disty with just points and condenser.... maybe the condenser? It is a capacitor, and if it is electrolytic like I guess, they don't take well to having polarity reversed.

hmmmmm... any new developments vw505?

Morr

ron69912t 11-06-2003 10:34 AM

Oil Blowby?
 
Morrie:
Could the smoke actually be oil vapor from the crank case. If the dist shaft O-Ring seal is gone or shot??

Or a grounded hot wire inside the dist?

Ron

Morrie 11-06-2003 10:36 AM

maybe.... if oil is present then its a possibility. A grounded hot wire that smoked should be detectable in a visual inspection.

Morr

Touque 11-06-2003 12:22 PM

I had the same thing happen to me WAY back early last year before I had a pertronix. Was adjusting the timing and must of grounded something and fried my condensor... lots of smoke and a rather toasty condensor wire. $11 later for points and condensor and I was good to go...

Morrie 11-06-2003 12:27 PM

Sounds like Troy is on to it.....

vw505 11-06-2003 01:39 PM

the green wire was pinched and grounding out ! i am not installing the pertronics till every thing is sorted out . i have lots of wires that need new homes .

Morrie 11-06-2003 01:47 PM

Good for you, the first bug is fixed. Be ready for more, its half the fun of an old car!

Morrie

vw505 11-06-2003 02:09 PM

ya to bad i am done playing till Dec. and my ship pull's back in .


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