Complete Vacuum kits sold?

nutzforporsche · 08-29-2001, 04:06 PM

Hey all, Wayne or Dave if you see this.
I remember someone sold a complete vac hose kit for the 2.0 with the "colored hose. I know I saw it out here and I'm brain locked. I want a no brainer for once and won't have to buy tons of vac hose that I don't need.
Thanks in Advance
Steve

jabez · 08-30-2001, 05:38 AM

Here goes.........you guys may kick me out of the "club" but........AA has the set. I got it yesterday. By the way, the order was on time and complete. Maybe they've been reading these posts.

08-30-2001, 05:58 AM

If I wanted to gamble I'd go to Las Vegas.

nutzforporsche · 08-30-2001, 08:06 AM

Thank you Jabez,
Ok I know as my luck goes this is going to be very painfull. Ordering and recieving anything from AA on time requires patience of a monk and nerves of a bomb specialist. Ok I'm screwed....... BTDT.ha ha

nutzforporsche · 08-30-2001, 08:11 AM

I have a even better idea, Watch this....Gets down on bended knees and prays to the great and wise Pelican gods, Oh mighty and wise ones please please please make up a kit to sell in a hurry, here take one of my prize grandchildren as a offering to make this request come through. Don't let one of your most loyal subjects have to gravel at the feet of AA......OMMMMM. I would rather be beaten with a stick.....ha ha

jabez · 08-30-2001, 08:30 AM

I always go to PP first, but if they don't have it, I have to look East. I have had a few problems of my own with AA but that seems to be a common problem with MOST but not all mail order houses.

nutzforporsche · 08-30-2001, 08:21 PM

Well AA I'll have to come to you, bummer

Dave at Pelican Parts · Dave at Pelican Parts's Garage

I can't really speak officially for Pelican on this, as I don't make the policies. However, this subject has come up before.

The upshot is that it isn't worth the time and money it would take to measure and cut the hoses, check that they're right, warehouse them, inventory them, etc. Maybe it would be if there were only one or two sets of plumbing on a 914, but there are at least eight different sets that would be needed.

You can take the diagram to your FLAPS, and talk to them. If they're any good, they should be able to set you up. If you don't have a car that exactly matches any of our diagrams (say, a 74 1.8) then you can omit the stuff you don't have, or guess on the "extra" stuff that the diagram doesn't have.

All of the costs (and remember, time is money!) would have to be passed on to the consumers. So tell me, would you buy hose sets at $150 a pop, when you could buy the hose locally for $65?

Do remember that the vacuum hose diagrams (at least the 2.0 one) merely has the diameter of the fittings that the hoses go on. The actual hoses will be a bit smaller so they grab the fittings securely.

--DD

jabez · 08-31-2001, 06:26 AM

Dave - the problem is that the guys back East supply the kit for $65 cut to the right lenghts, and out of the correct material and the right diameters. I run a manufacturing company myself, and I understand that you have to make commercial decisions based on cost, overhead and the market you are serving.

TimW · 08-31-2001, 12:41 PM

--turn force field on--
I admit it, I just bought the 2.0L vacuum hose kit from AA too. It was the correct kit shipped in a timely fashion with excellent instructions. I have to say, it was $50 well spent ($58 with shipping, ouch). It was total no brainer to install, no cutting, no sizing, correct material -- just what I was looking for.
--turn force field off--

Dave, I would have to respectfully disagree. I bet with a list of correct sizes and all the materials in front of you, it would take all of 5 min. to cut and package all the pieces.

And just so I don’t get flamed

, I bought the rest of my parts from PP.

Tim

[This message has been edited by TimW (edited 08-31-2001).]

retro74 · 08-31-2001, 07:44 PM

My two cents:

I just updated all of my hoses on my 74' 2.0 including gaskets, seals etc. and purchased stock hoses from PP. I wanted a stock German cloth braided look. The AA stuff is colored plastic and will probably outlast a nuclear blast, but I didn't want the colored plastic look.

Some of the PP stock German hoses were a bit gray in color (I soaked them in RIT Black die for 20 minutes and let them dry overnite -- rinsed them and then let them dry again--Nice and Black now!).

I used the PP diagram for the 2.0 D-Jet hoses with the following modifications:

- The PP diagram shows two hoses off to the left that dissapear and they should be labeled as hoses to the Charcoal Canister (Hint to Dave here).

- I used the suggestions from http://members.rennlist.org/chuxter/914Hoses.html to get smaller hoses except...

- The thinnest hose is for the vacuum line to the distributor and for the Decel Valve should indeed be 5mm to get a tight fit on these true vacuum hoses (Otherwise I agree with Chuck's hose sizes, but not his hose diagram, which I beleive is not correct).

Did it cost more than the AA kit? Yes
Did it take longer? Yes
Did I get the satisfaction of doing it myself?
Priceless!

Joe

TimW · 08-31-2001, 08:14 PM

I don’t know if AA has changed the materials they’ve used over the years, but the 2.0L AA kit I just got was cloth braided. Black, dark brown, and dark green for the different sizes, which seemed to match the old lines I was replacing.

Here is an interesting note. Both Chuck and DD have the two brown and blue respectively decal valve lines swapped from how AA has it. I’m not sure if it makes a difference, but it’s not the same. Can anyone comment on that? Does it matter?

I also see that Chuck and DD differ in that the hose going to the oil filler and the decal valve are swapped. I’m, not sure if that makes a difference either. In that case AA’s is the same as Chucks.

DD diagram is at: http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/technical_specs/914_20FI_diag.htm