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Boxsteru 914?
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I'm not usually one to cross link to other sites but this is just plain exciting to me... 
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Very interesting.
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some thought went into this one, but at the end of the day, the guy is trading an older chassis design that suffers from improper rear control arm geometry and a lot of money when he could just buy a boxster and throw a 3.6 in it.
i appreciate the challenge and if he is looking to showcase his skills kudos on that. imho, keeping a 914 look with the better/faster drivetrain would have had more of a fun factor than having the GT3 boxster style. yeah, i know, just my 1.5 cents worth we are storing a boxster GT3 look 3.8 zytek motored 914 at our shop, and other than the better aero for the track, it was big wasted $$
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08-11-2010, 10:18 PM
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Well, the counterpoint is this is actually a pretty cheap way to performance. Subaru engines can be had all day long for $1000-1500. Try rebuilding a 914 Type IV for that? Try matching the power for twice the money and you still come up short.
Boxster/Cayman 5 spd boxes can be bought out of LAPD as good low mileage takeouts for $1500. That's in the same ballpark as rebuilding a 901 properly if it needs a 1/R op sleeve and some dog teeth. It's way cheaper than a Wevo or Velios 916 conversion. So then what you are really left with is the cost of the conversion and the "kit" for installation. A couple thousand dollars more? Where does that put us overall? $5000-6000. That's what a 6 swap costs in a 914 and you are still left with a 901 based bearbox at that price. The comment about just throwing a 3.6 in a Boxster really doesn't have anything to do with it in my mind. I could build a faster better handling VR6 powered Golf for the same money, but it doesn't mean I would want one. I don't ever expect my 914 to be able to run with my other cars. But I do want to pull it's powertrain out of the '70s and make it drive like it's 10 or 15 years old instead of 35. 
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The SCCA still uses the absurd 1.4 multiplier for forced induction, so if you can't beat em'......
It looks as tho the ****box is gonna get a Subi motor. The 2 valve motor no longer cuts the mustard when going up against the big dogs with mega horsepower in XP. The Subie also has a weight advantage over the flat 6 but has a similar CG. 350 hp @ the wheels is doable with the 2.0L. An increase in traction will be necessary. The 2.5L is also a possibility but then E Mod becomes the class. BTW, Dave, we're still waiting for Doug's green meanie to see what he's got for us. If any 9eleben can run with the box ( bad geometry & all) , with Doug's driving , he may be the one. 
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