IgnitorŪ Electronic Ignition

[ddustan]

Anyone have experience with IgnitorŪ Electronic Ignition? I am considering replacing my stock points, etc with this product.

David

[jenmcd]

Ja, I also wish to do this. Ignitor, MSG...?? Opinions, comments, gripes..


Keith

[Pritchard]

I have been using the Ignitor for about 4 years with no problems. It is very easy to install w/ only a very slight modification necessary.

Good luck
David Pritchard

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

Some people report problems with the Pertronix. Others run them for years and years with zero problems at all... This discussion has been known to start flames a-flyin' on some occasions.

I myself use a Crane (actually an old Allison) optical ignition that I got for cheap at a swap meet.

--DD

[HMeeder]

I installed an Ignitor about a year ago.

Ran fine for about 6 months. I had heard about Pertronix problems before so I kept a spare distributor, points in, gapped and ready, in case the Ignitor crapped out. Sure enough, started sputtering and backfiring one day. I threw the other dizzy in there and the car ran fine.

Went and returned the bad unit, got a new one. The new one doesn't run right either, so the points went back in the car.

I won't be putting another one in.

My tale of woe.

I hear that if you can afford it, MSD is the way to go.

[J P Stein]

Mines been doin' fine for bout 3 years......go figure.

I can only speak from my own experience.
Maybe they have some quality control issues or maybe there are some installation issues........I just reinstalled it in a new dizzy. If mine pukes, I'll get another one & try again.

[SummerSledSix]

I'm probably asking a related but slightly different question here, but what if any difference do you guys notice when you go from just-a-coil to a C/D ignition? I'm not talking about the "solid state points" part, I'm talking about the hotter spark of the capacitive discharge part.

[dman]

Ditto Johns question, I already have a high output pertronix coil and points but I am considering a MSD ignition. What are the advantages/disadvantages?

[J P Stein]

I've been running a Permatune CD all the time the Ignitor has been in there.
An MSD 6AL (& coil) is now mounted and will get wired up this weekend....IF I get the plug wires I've ordered, I'll light the fire, also.....do some tuning and get back to ya........

I'm dealing with carbs and the MSD is *supposed* to be the hot ticket for smooth running "off the bump" or at least keeping the plugs clean...we'll see.

It's prolly no help for an FI motor.

[Rouser]

Have had one 3+ years and it keeps going and going and going ...

Recommend a Bosch Blue coil or Pertronix Flame-Thrower.

The Ignitor is also compatible with the MSD-6A CDI systems, if you later choose to add additional capabilities.

[DSPTurtle]

I installed the Pertronix about 8 months ago and have loved it ever since. No points to mess with. I installed an MSD 6AL 3 months ago while chasing an FI problem. The MSD made things go much smoother. Now I have dual Dell's with the MSD and the Ignitor and everything works real well (knock on wood). Chasing an FI problem was just an excuse to go spend the money on the MSD but man was it worth it. Plugs stay much cleaner.
The MSd install is much easier without FI...with FI you will have to make a few wires because with the tach adapter and the FI need three points to hook up to. Not sure if this is covered in the tech article but it is not really a big deal. Just that once you get it running make sure you write down what is hooked up where!!!

[sammyg2]

In the turbo motor I ran a pertronix ignitor with Pertronix coil in an 050 dizzy. Worked like a champ.
I had one problem with it, but that was my fault.
The wires go through a rubber grommit where they exit the dizzy.
The grommit isn't very tight on the wires.
One day while tuning the engine I must have inadvertantly pulled on the wires. They pulled through the grommit a little until they came in contact with the spinning parts. Eventually the wires failed.
I got a new one free (even though it was my fault) and installed it with a dab of rtv on the grommit to keep it from happening again.
BTW, the unit is a simple drop in if you are using a 009 or 050, but I hear that they need a little modification in a 205 dizzy (thats what I call the stock units).

If I do it again I will run one again. I like them. I would also carry a spare set of points and condensor, just in case, but that is always a good idea no matter what.

[yoh!!!]

Has anyone considered using a "real" Bosch pointless ignition???
While looking at German brand cars on the junk yard I came up with this idea. I noticed that the early generation of watercooled flat four Vanagons had distributors with realy nice hall senders an compact transistor ignition and a devices called DLS (Digitale Leerlauf Stabilisierung) This should be a straight swap. Here are some specs on the dizzy I consider using...

Vanagon 1983-1984 * 1900 Digijet

Distributor: VW 025-905-205D, Bosch 0237 022 025
Can Use:
Dist Hall Sender w/Parts: Bosch: 1237 011 050
Ignition Control Module (On Left Firewall): Bosch 0227 100 137
Note: Will replace OE Fairchild Module if installed
Rotor: 04 038
Cap: 03 010
Note: If equipped with Ignition Wires with Suppressors at Both Ends (Bosch 09 272), use 03 212
Coil: 00 041
Vacuum Can: 07 212
Ignition Wires:
If using 03 010 Cap: 09 180
If using 03 212 Cap: 09 272
Spark Plug: W7CC, WR7DTC
Timing Set At:: 5deg ATDC @ 850 rpm w/strobe, vacuum hose(s) connected. Idle Stabilizer must be disconnected and it's plugs directly connected together (bypassing the Stabilizer) for accurate timing with strobe. Reconnect Idle Stabilizer when timing is set.
Advance/Retard Range: Vacuum: 12-16deg Adv @ 10.6 In. Hg, 9-11deg Ret @ 10.6 In. Hg; Centrifugal: 16-20deg @ 2400 rpm, 21-25deg @ 3800 rpm

Patrick Koch

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