Which 6 Conversion Motor Mount?

[Zeke]

The fire wall one or the one that bolts up to the stock mounts?

[J P Stein]

I like the fire wall one (Velious/Rich Johnson). It's more difficult to install, more expensive.....it MUST be better

[kellzey]

See Rich Johnson a914guy@aol.com

He can fix you up with any part for your conversion. (He is currently supplying me with a lot of my parts for my conversion).

He manufactures a high-quality bulkhead-style mount. This unit is superior to even the Porsche factory mount, is well made, and worth the extra cost.

If you go with a Quick-Six mount, you will probabably run into problems with headers and shift bar linkage interfering with the mount.

Regards,

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

See also:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/9144/POR_9144_sixcon_pg2.htm#item9

--DD

[Brad Roberts]

Dave,

that picture is old. You guy's need to get the new one from Rich Johnson.. LOL

He has a new notch for the wiring harness.

B

[David McLaughlin]

I just bought the Rich Johnson mount from Pelican. WIth any luck my very slow mwchanic will have it installed very soon. I wanted a mount that was stronger because I plan on driving mostly on the track. That said, I hear form a few rennlisters and from my mechanic that the quick six bars are just fine. I hear that so much so, that I'm almost regretting buying the other and not just new or solid /4 motor mounts.

That said, if you want the quick six mount, give me a shout. I'm sure we could come up with a price that you'd be happy with.

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

If you really want 85 lbs worth of square-section steel tubing, you could just bolt on some ballast. (And I'm only exaggerating a little--that mother is heavy!!!) Plus, of course, you either have to sawz-all the mount bar (not recommended) or modify the rear shift rod to clear the mount bar.

I have also heard that the bar-style mount doesn't do that great a job controlling the movement of the motor. (That doesn't really make much sense--I don't see why it wouldn't be good--but that's what I have heard.)

Up to you.

--DD

[Brad Roberts]

MASS Dave,

Those crossbars also crack. I have thrown 3 of them away, all of them from Patrick. They break around the mounting ears that go to the block, right where you cant see them until its way to late.

I work on a lot of 914's and those with crossbars get charged more per hour. Its in the way 90% of the time. There is a reason why the factory centered mounted the original 6's.

RJ's mount (as you have seen) takes the factory thought process a little further by adding another mount. It really cleans up the underside of a the car.

B

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

The MM mounts are not the Patrick ones. The Patrick mounts are wonders of sophistication by comparison... The MM ones are long pieces of thick-wall steel tubing that go straight from one mount point to the other. Then a bent piece of heavy-gauge steel that goes up to the mounting ears. It really is something like 85 lbs...

At least with the Patrick mounts you don't have to change the shift rod. Then again, I wasn't happy with the way they treated MikeZ when his broke. "Gee, that's too bad. Wanna buy another one, full price?" ...Not a great way to get repeat customers.

--DD

[Brad Roberts]

Ahh.. that's where that mount came from.

I have a quick six mount here at the shop.

You should have seen the cludge they had for shift linkage.

I should way it for comparison purposes. It does way at least 30lbs more that RJ's mount.

B

[David McLaughlin]

All I know is that every time I really wanted to take off fast, I had to hold the shift lever, otherwise, the car would pop out of gear. I know that the /4 mounts the PO used had seen their last days years before I got my hands on it, but I just couldn't see that it was a good design. It doesn't appear that my linkage was modified any either. I guess that the PO bought his mount from that place in the south east as he highly reccomended them for all my parts needs.

Hears a question...
If the PO took every possible part off the factory six donar car (except the VIN... too bad), why wouldn't he have used the factory motor mount? supposidly the donor car only had front end damage.

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

At a guess--he didn't want do do any welding. Or perhaps "someone" convinced him that the "heavy duty aftermarket mount" they were selling was superior to the "flimsy single-point mounting" of the stock Six.

BTW, the hacking of the linkage only has to occur if you use a stock side-shift rear shift rod. The -6 shifter probably wouldn't have a problem. I don't think the tail-shifter would, but I'm less sure on that.

--DD