selling a 914 and need some advise

[foreignaffairs]

I own a Porsche service shop in Lexington, KY. We specialize in the newer cars but dabble in the older ones also. We also help our customers sell cars. A fellow PCA member passed away and his estate has asked me to help sell his beloved 1974 914. I am still waiting on all of the paper work so I can go through and see what all was done. It appears the car was restored a few years ago, and the car looks amazing.
I am not very familiar with the 914's and was looking to get some advise about what I need to look for and mention in the ad when I get it listed.
I was also wondering how to find out about paint color codes. I believe the tag says "L 96 B".

Please let me know any questions I need to research and pictures people are going to be asking. Also an opinion of a strong asking price. It was appraised at $28,000 and from what I can tell, that isn't unreasonable.

Please direct questions to scottwooldridge1@yahoo.com

[foreignaffairs]

[larrym]

spend some time on the 914World site

914World.com - specs

[bpu699]

I have that exact car, same color, same wheels, no rust whatsoever. 73, 1.7.

I would love if that car were worth 30k...

Realistically, 13-15k. Mileage? Motor?

If others post it's worth 30k, I am selling mine .

If it had a Porsche motor and 5 lug wheels, it would be worth 30k...

Good luck, hope you sell it for a bunch.

Bo

[foreignaffairs]

Does this appear to be a factory color? It looks like the car has always been blue, but may be a shade off from the engine bay. It could just be the lack of a clear coat and age?

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

L96B is Alaska Blue Metallic. It is at least close to the color I see in the photos. (Judging fine color shades on line is difficult for a lot of reasons.) I am not sure that the original paint would have been two-stage with a clear coat, but I am not sure on the metallics.

The car looks quite nice, but value will depend on a whole lot of factors. Rust in the typical areas is a big one--under the battery is one of the most common spots, and can be quite damaging. I also would not expect a cheap aftermarket muffler on a $28K 914-4; this one has a Monza or Ansa four-tip on it and not the correct Dansk "sausage" muffler. It looks to have SSI heat exchangers, which are a nice upgrade because they don't rot off the car.

I am thinking that the appraiser does not know 914s very well, and was quoting top dollar for a four-cylinder car and assuming everything was good and correct. If you can get someone who knows the ins and outs of these cars thoroughly, you might get a better idea of what it might be worth.

If you ask half that amount, you will probably have people lining up to write you a check. If you ask that full amount, it probably will take a long time to sell.

--DD

[Tobra]

I think the metallic paints of that era had clear coat on them. VW convertible in metallic from then did, same factory and all.

That car looks shockingly clean. Put the right muffler on it and you will 20 grand for that thing all day long. If not in a hurry to sell, would not be a bit surprised if that one got into high 20's

[foreignaffairs]

The car is "shockingly clean". It was entered in our local Concourse (Keeneland Concourse) show a few years ago. It didn't win but it definitely put up a fight.
Does anyone want to be kind enough to send a link to the correct muffler? I'm not sure I can convince the estate to spend money on it but I'd like to have the option.

[Coloradocurt]

Originally Posted by larrym

spend some time on the 914World site

914World.com - specs

I second that suggestion. While there are some knowledgeable 914 enthusiasts on Pelican, 914World is the center of the 914 Universe.

Any and all documentation of the car's past is a must to get the best price, especially remedial rust treatment and repainting. The 914's, especially in your part of the world, are extremely rust-prone. All other things being equal, if that car was a SoCal or Arizona car its whole life, it could pull as much as $5K more.

I'm not sure if Pelican has it, but I believe there are publications which advise prospective 914 buyers what to look closely at in their search. As an unfamiliar seller, you might do well to familiarize yourself with that information.

[John Rogers]

Post it on the VW Bug web forums also, the biggest is "The Samba" and that is where I found the buyer for my 914-6 race car. Remember they are the same family.

[mepstein]

Ask the appraiser where he got his comps. We'd all like to find those buyers. Real world pricing is $16-20 if everything checks out and it still has the stock fuel injection.

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

Originally Posted by foreignaffairs

Does anyone want to be kind enough to send a link to the correct muffler?

Porsche 914, 914-6 (1970-1976) - Mufflers & Catalytic Converters - Page 1

Scroll down until you find the 73-74 muffler section. The two options are Dansk and OEM Porsche.

This assumes the car is a 2-liter. If it's a 1.8, the earlier section is OK but not quite the absolutely correct one.

--DD

[el scorcho]

Originally Posted by bpu699

I have that exact car, same color, same wheels, no rust whatsoever. 73, 1.7.

I would love if that car were worth 30k...

Realistically, 13-15k. Mileage? Motor?

If others post it's worth 30k, I am selling mine .

If it had a Porsche motor and 5 lug wheels, it would be worth 30k...

Good luck, hope you sell it for a bunch.

Bo

A '73 1.7L doesn't have near the value of a 2.0L which for 1973 came standard with the appearance package (1974 did not). In the 914 world this is the 3rd most sought after stock version only behind the 914-6 and the LE version from 1974.

If all original, it could sell for as high as $30K or more to the right buyer. Heck, there's a 73 2.0L on bring a trailer auctions right now that isn't nearly as nice as this one and is at $11k with lots of rust issues and unknowns.

IF it had a "Porsche motor and 5 lug wheels" are you describing a 914-6? If you are talking about a 6, those start at $30K for a rusted out tub. One just sold at auction for $90K. If you're speaking of a conversion, yeah $30K+ is the going rate for a decent one depending on which engine is used.

[foreignaffairs]

I have been pretty busy and still trying to get all of the details straight about the car. I think we are going to start out asking $25,000 for the car. It may eventually sell for less but I have to try to get as much as possible for the family. It is VERY clean.
Here's a link to pictures

car - https://goo.gl/photos/d4PWt9Q4YZ2nvgD49


detailed images - https://goo.gl/photos/mpF3Vb6gZhBKwieE9

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

The engine definitely has the 2.0 intake and air cleaner on it, so that's good.

The carpets appear to all be aftermarket replacements. The material is different and the originals would not have the embroidery.

The muffler is an Ansa, not the stock-type "sausage" one.

The center cushion has an ostrich-skin type pattern on it; I believe the original would have been just plain grained vinyl.

The "hell hole" in front of the battery is not easy to see in the photos, but that is very common because of all of the parts that are in the way.

Overall, the car looks super clean and very nice.

--DD

[RDS137]

Regarding the 914 - I just wanted to toss something out to see if it is worth even having a conversation. I have a 1966 Soft Window Targa 912. It is a pretty complete car - I have the COA from Porsche - matching number car - currently white, was sand beige - 5 gauge, 5 spd, chrome wheels. Appears to had some work done at some point, front end does not line up quite right. Needs restoration. The 914 you are selling was my first Porsche (1.7 vs 2.0), but pretty close. Caught my eye.

Not sure I want to trade - kind of a spur of the moment email - if you think it is worth considering, maybe we could talk. I live in the Detroit area and have owned the car for 4 years, do not drive, rebuilt carbs and did not put them back on. Car ran when purchased. Needs to be restored. Numbers I have been quoted put mine in the $25-30K range (could also be a little high).

Please drop me a note or give me a call - Randy @ 586-634-9885

[Mike Fitton]

Originally Posted by RDS137

Regarding the 914 - I just wanted to toss something out to see if it is worth even having a conversation. I have a 1966 Soft Window Targa 912. It is a pretty complete car - I have the COA from Porsche - matching number car - currently white, was sand beige - 5 gauge, 5 spd, chrome wheels. Appears to had some work done at some point, front end does not line up quite right. Needs restoration. The 914 you are selling was my first Porsche (1.7 vs 2.0), but pretty close. Caught my eye.

Not sure I want to trade - kind of a spur of the moment email - if you think it is worth considering, maybe we could talk. I live in the Detroit area and have owned the car for 4 years, do not drive, rebuilt carbs and did not put them back on. Car ran when purchased. Needs to be restored. Numbers I have been quoted put mine in the $25-30K range (could also be a little high).

Please drop me a note or give me a call - Randy @ 586-634-9885

This is an estate sale (zero chance of a trade) that is getting a lot of views, so you decided to hijack to advertise your car? Bad form from a newbie, admins should delete this post in my opinion.

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

Probably something better done through PM, in fact.

--DD

[chrisg252]

The car seems to be missing its rear sway bar.

[mepstein]

"shockingly clean".
Too bad someone did such a poor repair on the rear end damage.
I'm not sure "repair" is even the right word.