Yeah,... he can read,... he's 17 not 16 Richard, BAH HA HA!!!

Hey Frank,

Your boy is taking a "shine" to you. Sounds like you need to do another roadtrip!

http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/pyth.gif

ROAD TRIP!!!!

Someone should sell tickets.

no sir. PPV!

to Loveland, CO?

You complained you smelled gas. A few weeks later you buy FR's chip. Your solution to the gas smell is to lean out the AFM? Move that spring a few notches. FR's page says not to do that. The chip wont work right. You shot yourself in the foot. You leaned out the AFM so that the chip couldn't work.

You screwedup the AFM and the chip didn't work.

It's settled then, he's not an idiot. Merely a moron. A few notches? I reckon that would lessen the smell of gasoline inside the car. Under the hood. Inside the combustion chamber.<br>THE 944 IS NOT A FREAKIN SCOOTER WITH A WEED EATER MOTOR TAPED TO THE BACK. Why didn't you try eliminating the head gasket by using permatex for those extra horsepower?

Oh, did you see the scooter pictures? I lost the link. Richard

RoastinGOPEDs
 

SmileWavyhttp://www.lejjend.com/jump/jump4.jpg http://www.lejjend.com/jump/jump3.jpg http://www.lejjend.com/jump/jump1.jpg http://www.lejjend.com/jump/jump2.jpg


Someone showed me this last week.
http://www.lejjend.com/images2.htm
Sad, very sad. What is the saddest? That a 15 year old plays with a scooter or that he is proud of playing with a scooter and made a web page. No helmet too.

Is that a pic a preview of the PPV where Roasten is being chased by Franky?

BTW, why does he call it "brown eye"? Doesn't he wipe???

He little richard, i never even touched the AFM, i was just wondering about it! read a little closer, i just asked about it! Road Trip? Go ahead, come out here, id like to see that, haha.

YOU TOUCHED THE AFM!!!!!

nope, never even taken the black top off of it, those pictures were the ones scott was showing me,

This is quickly degenerating into a p*ssing contest - all well and good, but all you end up with is wet knees.

I seem to remember something about putting the chip in backwards, but honestly, I don't feel inclined to search for the thread - assuming it has not been deleted.

Unless the DME was faulty to begin with, any chip, regardless of who makes it, will not make a poorly running engine suddenly run better. Considering the modifications you are making\planning on making, the overall reliability of the fuel\air mapping on your car is questionable at best. As a mechanic, I certainly wouldn't want to even try troubleshooting.

Roastin944 - You had the chip and it didn't work for you - improperly installed or not (again, don't care to look) FR offered to take it back and it got lost in the mail - send registered and insure for value next time - the extra $5 is worth it. Consider yourself poorer but wiser.

Bad things happen for no reason and things do get lost in the mail quite frequently. - That really isnt justification to slam about a vendor in a public forum.

Ok, stepping off of my soap box.

AFJuvat

See what boredom at work will do....

here was the original thread in question

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/107755-hope-someone-knows-answer-question.html?highlight=Chips


and then the thread that started it all...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/106154-question-fr-wilk.html?highlight=Chips

AFJuvat

BAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

I don't think he ever went to wilk's site any longer than it took to place an order. All the questions he asked were explained on the site.

Brown eye huh?... hmm, do you know how to wipe your a$$ moron or did your mommy forget to show you how to do that too. Once again, grow up, learn some manners, and maybe wear a helmet so you don't crack your friggining skull when you get overconfident in your abilities as an extreme skooter jag-off.

ps: I'm not interested in any more of your B.S. comments. Because you've chosen to trash someone personally because you don't know how to act appropriately and professionally when you've purchased something for your car that you're having a problem with, maybe you should just shut up and stop slamming peoiple because you're the one with the problem, which is, not being able to be honest about your mistakes that you created in your life.
Subsequently, You are a F-up and probablly will always be that way. You are just the kind of guy that I have to go collect money from because they stole something from there parents to get out of hock or buy drugs or borrowed money from someone that they can't pay back, and you have all of the excuses and answers and it never has anything to do with you, and it will never have anything to with you as long as you have a jaw that flaps up and down to fan the Bull$hit at people and teeth to grind in your sleep because your always trying to think up new ways to lie cheat and steal.

You were pretty cool until you pulled this stunt, now, well, you're just not.
So, don't focus on me and what I have to say, maybe you should start with yourself and clean it up, or someone's gonna mop the floor with your a$$ someday. You know where that is right? that place where your brown eye is.

I don't understand people like him. I will probably never understand people like him. Pathalogically lying all the time is a mental illness. Go to the docters kid,...

So did HE put the chip in backwards, then?

944 performance enhancements
 

Last year Grassroots Racing ran an article on dyno test of there project 944. Chipped, header, and cone filter. Not much change by modifying exhaust and intake alone; about 3 hp.

After installing chip, about 10-15hp I seem to recall.

On a similar vein, has anyone have experience with using underdrive pulleys on 944?

While I'm asking questions: any thoughts on how much power 3 speed auto can take? My guess is 200hp. Please don't suggest I get a 5- speed car; my wife drives 944 and will never learn to shift! :D

'Bout time to teach her if you ask me.

Repo,

Haven't tried the underdrive pulleys. Off the crank pulley runs the Alt, AC, & PS. The power the Alt pulls is probably related to how much current you are drawing once it is to speed. The AC clutch doesn't pull much until you switch AC on. The power the PS pump pulls is probably limited by max PSI of a relief valve (haven't pulled a Porshe PS pump apart so not sure). If you put on a smaller crank pulley, there may be a slight amount of friction reduced in the assesories running at lower speed & maybe some small aceleration help with the less flywheel affect of a smaller pulley & greater torque mulptiplication acelating the assesory speed.

I would say not a lot o improvement for the dollar & effort.

It is greater improvement on a US V8 with the pulley driving the water pump.


drew1

Drew1,
Thanks for feedback on pulleys. I agree, don't think gains would warrant work but wanted 2nd opinion. Appreciate it

Cliff,
My wife has many fine qualities but last time we tried learning the clutch it resulted in a wrecked Saleen. Already have a 5 sp roadster (TR8); 944 is a shared toy. oh well.

;)

AFJuvat, where did you get euro pistons from and the euro DME? What else have you done with your n/a engine? I was thinking about ordering custom pistons from ebsracing and maybe getting a hunley racing head. I was also thinking a huntley racing stage 2 cam eventually but this is just an ongoing project. Thanks for your help.

-John

-'88 Black 944

BS.......Period!!!!!!

How many email addresses can one person have to promote a OK product at best.

How many of you losers have dyno'd the stuff you quote HP figures for??? Air filter, header, chip equals what? 5WHP with AA or Guru chip maybe 3 with fr's.

Yeah.... I've got some magic spark plugs for you guys that make 8% more HP oh ya sure.......considering the last ones were 15yrs old.
Funny Stuff : ) : ) : )
Paul Bloomberg
944-Spec 132WHP
944 T 400WHP
328i who cares I get a nice tan
03 Durango with white walls. It tows like a CHUD....

Post the charts...

oh my god......... someone touched the "screw under the black cover" of the AFM.

OHHH!

I hope it doesn't blow..

Could some of you guys please post the dyno charts with a/f???

Paul

oh my god........ I can't believe this thread is still alive ;)

GrassRoots Racing article Dec 2001: my mistake, no hp figures. This was a follow-up article. Previously they had already put a chip in and had reduced 0-60 times. Now they were playing around with intake and exhaust. Quantative data given in 40-80 3rd gear times. Testing device used was a Vericom VC2000PC. They also installed a BMP fuel pressure regulator. 40-80 prior to mods: 11 sec; after: 9.86 sec.

This is a good one!

Putting the chip in backwards does what???

The engine doesn't start, then you turn it around and it is fine!!!!!!
On a 944, just make sure you disconnect the battery.

Putting the chip in backwards does one thing; it fries the chip.
therefore you will need a new chip. I have seen people do this on Bosch Motronic and Magnetti-Marelli. Every time a new chip was needed.

me thinks this thread does not want to die.............

Lets see performance add ons that don't work..... HOw about those little octane in a bottle solutions..... Its nice to spend 10 bucks on a bottle to see your octane go from 93 to 93.7

I bought an MSD 6AL ignition for cheap and a blaster 2 ignition coil. I am getting new plugs this weekend and I am hoping to put it all on by next week. We'll see if it's a noticable gain in HP or not. I'm not expecting anything really but we'll see what happens.

FR, you are a very patient man, I don't know how you put up with some your customers. I don't even think that I would satisfy these idiots with a return email.

Hey,

I got the euro Pistons and DME from Germany. You can special order them from any Porsche shop, or check the second hand parts dealers in Europe to get them.

My 944 I leave stock, I have done a few horsepower conversions on 944's

Euro DME (modified program), Euro Pistons, Bump fuel pressure, Port\polish head & intake, free flow exhaust, 924S transmission, lightweight flywheel, strip out the interior.

Net result 185 - 200HP on an NA (No I do not have dyno sheets)
Cost: $7000 parts and labor

You can get more by adding superchargers etc.

It is a common misconception that you cannot do anything to the NA engine - you can indeed do quite a bit to make it faster. However, as has been said, by the time you buy the car, buy the parts, blah blah blah, you could have already bought a MUCH faster car.

AFJuvat

FR,

Was redoing interior on my '84 with automatic and noticed a 10 x 10 silver box at base of steering column. Is this DME box? Alarm and cruise are mounted far forward under center console.

I didn't see anything on passenger side. Did they put DME on driver's side in autos? Or was I just not looking hard enough. D**N bifocals.

thanks

Compresion has to stay low for CA emissions(NOX).
Web Camshaft 3/4 street (easy install$440)
Mass Air (Easy Install$700)
Chip Custom for Mods
Hi-Flow exhaust ($200/CAT,$150 Resonator)

Replace front and rear bumpers w/ fiberglass units, 200# savings in weight easy.

I made FG bumpers fo rmy 924S. Think they saved 40-45lbs per end. I also have a 12lb battery that I used in that car and my green 951. Removing the top of the rear seat will save another 15lb or so. Spare tire and jack are another 40-50lbs. Al in all I think I shaved about 150lbs off my 924S, so it ended up being pretty light and nimble. To bad it had 225k!