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Survey on ATP wheels

Well they are cheap...only 179 a peice at tire rack... I was wondering what you think about them. Lets me know what you think from the following poll.


1. Awesome
2. Good
3. OK
4. Ugly
5. Hmmmm Rice Porsche?
6. Poor
7. Keep the Phone Dials
8. Keep the Cookie Cutters

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Old 02-22-2001, 05:38 PM
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8. keep the cookie cutters

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Old 02-22-2001, 06:21 PM
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5, I would shell out the extra couple hundred and get the turbo twist rims. Those look awesome on a 944.
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Ywh but we are just talking about these

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9.I will run you off the road if I see you with these rims on a 944

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Buy these wheels, gimme your cookies!

I don't think they look that bad, though a bit ricey. People put chromed factory rims on Porsches, and nobody says something, this is definately not that bad. I actually considered them when I bought some 17ers last year.

However, I'd be skeptical about their quality, and trueness... With tires this is gonna cost you, and cost a lot next time you need tires too!!!

If you've seen the posts about fuchs wheels, you will see that they're extremely light. These coud weigh 3-5x as much as a fuchs/cookie cutter rim, I wouldn't be surprised.

Cookie cutters are considered some of the best (many people don't like the way they look, I'm not one of them!) wheels Porsche has made. They're marginally stronger than fuchs of the same dimentions, and light as hell. Make sure you watch for cracks though, a forged magnesium/aluminum wheel can literally explode under stress!
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Yea, and we are talking about those ones as well. They would do no justice to that nice paint job of yours. If you get those rims you might as well throw a can of paint on it as well. If you're gonna get rims, get good ones. That's basically what everyone is saying.
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Don't do it.

The wheels themselves don't look all that bad, but the fact that you can find them on 87% of riced-out Hondas in the 'hood makes them a disgrace to have on a Porsche.

If you're looking for phone dials, i have a set of late offset ('88, i think) dials that i'm looking to unload. They are nearly perfect, and have so few miles on them, they still have factory tires mounted, and only about half used.

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I agree with Ven.
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Why don't you buy my 17" cup wheels from my 87 944 S? They would fit perfectly and come with tires. That'll save you big $$$ and they're mint.

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The ATP wheels weigh a lot more and will actualy slow you down. I agree with Ahmet.
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Ahmet,
The "cookie cutters" are nothing like Fuchs.
They are made by ATS, the same company that builds phone dials. They are cast aluminum, NOT forged. They have little strength, cannot be anodised properly, and they break/bend.
I agree with you though that they look VERY good when in A+ condition on an original car. Too bad they were never made larger than 7X15...
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I remember reading something about the cookie cutter wheels, being built by the same manufacturer, as the fuchs. Also that they were stronger than a similar sized fuchs wheel, because of their shapes' triangulation adding strength.

I want to say this was in an article at excellence, on the 911 fuchs wheels, but I'm not positive. If I run across the source in the next few weeks, I'll post it.

You know, I'm not gonna argue this too much (because I'm not positive about it), but I'll admit this: I've seen MANY broken cookie cutters. As opposed to no broken fuchs. But then again a forged wheel is more likely to shatter/break, then tear/bend.
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The Cookie cutters are made by ATS, not Fuchs. the name is on them. The forged wheels should not break, only bend.
The forged Fuchs are much lighter than the cookies.
The going price for these different rims exactly reflects the difference in quality.
I'm still looking for some factory other than Fuchs to build FULL forged wheels.
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I agree with ahmet, and anyone who says the cookie cutters are strong. I ran into a curb pretty hard last year, bent my control arm to the ground, destroyed a lot of suspension, and even though the rims are far from being true they still hold air and have no cracks. not many rims can say that.
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10) paint them black.

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I saw those rims on a minivan at work yesterday. That should say it all!

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You know I have been seeing a lot of minivans with aftermarket rims. What gives?
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Oh yea! and you can't forget those spoilers on the back (that are like 8 feet off the ground)
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Spoilers on minivans???

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