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Lightbulb "Running Reports" strictly intended for AIR - COOLED Porsches only

I could not believe my eyes when I read this today...

as found on the DC Automotive web site... http://www.dcautomotive.com/


Porsche Running Reports

In the tradition of the "Running Reports" as seen in 911 & Porsche World, I am attempting to create
one of my own. If you are interested in sending in running reports of your own, please email me
along with a picture of your pride and joy. By the way, this page is strictly intended for A I R - C O O
L E D Porsches only. That means no 928, no 944, no 968, no Boxster. Not even the new 996!!!!
This page is for real Porsches only. However, VW Beetles are also welcomed.

the e-mail is "Ruf964@aol.com"


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Lets all send him some updates on our cars... I did... I let him know that my cars have REAL Porsche badges and logos and everything.

Old 03-26-2001, 12:21 PM
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sorry, am selling my real porsche. my fake porsche is just too good.

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Why get so mad? The guy is just trying to get a site going dedicated to air-cooled cars only.

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I'm not mad...One of the recent strings here was about how fellow Porsche owners view each other. If is air cooled only thats fine but when you make a statement like "This page is for real Porsches only"... then things are different.
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Evidently the idiot who started the site for "real Porsches only" doesn't even know the history of the marque. The 924/944/928 series were the first "true, all Porsche" designs. The 911 was an extension of design concepts started with the "people's car" advocated by none other than the 'Dolph. More commonly known as the Volkswagen. BTW- Porsche engineers did work on Tiger tank suspension systems (torsion bars) during WWII. I wonder how those would fare at a DE? Would they be considered "True Porsche"? Just thinking over history.
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I couldn't find the article on his site...guess I'm too stupid to find it...that probably goes with the territory though as I am a multiple 944 owner...LOL

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Ok, the 911 was a totally new ground up car developed by Ferry Porsche, not Ferdinand Porsche, his father. This makes the 911 the first "true" Porsche, even though the 356 was ecentially a new ground up car, except for the fact that the engine was LOOSELY based SOMEHOW on the VW engine. I have a 912 and can testify. The 2 engines (356 and VW)look very little alike, none of the parts interchange, and if you get it rebuilt by a VW mechanic don't count on your engine lasting long as they don't know how to rebuild Porsche engines as they are completely different. Thus making the 356 the first "true" Porsche. But the way I look at it, all Porsches, even the 914 with a VW motor, are "true" Porsches and should be treated as "true" Porsches.

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i can't find the article that you're talking about.

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you know, people like that are often too stupid to know just what Porsche the company is. their PERCEPTION of Porsche and the truth are often polar opposites. they are often the same people that spend $30,000 on a 911 turbo, then get pissed because they were lapped by a $10,000 944 turbo.

i bet he considers a 959 the "ultimate porsche" thought it's water cooled. and what about the 935? the 956 and 962? the GT1.

rewrite that to have it say:

"This site is for people too stupid and stuck up to know what a Porsche really is."


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So is the new SUV a real Porsche too? My guess is that no one at this board will accept it as a "real" Porsche either

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Originally posted by Gary Peters:
So is the new SUV a real Porsche too? My guess is that no one at this board will accept it as a "real" Porsche either

of course it is ! if they put the badge on the hood, then it's a Porsche.

what is a "real" porsche after all? you DO know that most of the Porsche Le Mans victories were by water-cooled cars . and most of the 935s and 962s made have non-factory bodies . some "Porsches" have been made in Sweden, others in Jacksonville, Florida.

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Why the air vs. water division? Aren't all Porsches made by Porsche AG? Doesn't the same type of engineering, quality, research go into all of their cars?

So why don't we separate the 'real' and 'fake' Porsches by number of cylinders? So like the 356, the 924/944/968 would be 'real' Porsches, and the 911 would be a fake.

Why stop with air cooled vs. water cooled, or number of cyls? Let's see, the original 356 No 1:
-air cooled
-4 cyl
-mid-engined
-lots of VW parts
So I guess the only other 'real' Porsche would be a 914. (But not the 914-6!)

Can't we all just get along?!?!
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To find this dumbass comment, Go to OUR LINKS, it will be at the bottom of the page under PORSCHE RUNNING REPORTS. Please note:
His page is for REAL IDIOTS ONLY, if you have an open mind, believe that all Porsches are equal, or don't have an air of superiority or arrogance about you; don't send your report!
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Think Ill run out and put a Porsche Badge on my daughters rice burner..
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ummmmm,

that makes no sense at all... "real Porsches only... but VW Beetles are welcome"

i think that his definition of a "real" Porsche is something he made up. i think i am going to e-mail him tomorrow afternoon. take a while to think about it. how could a 914 be a "real" porsche if in Germany they were sold as VWs?

and why would a 356 be a "real" porsche if they had VW components in them?
911s also have components that are taken from the same parts bins as Audis, VWs, Mercedes, and other makes.

it just makes no sense at all.

a better way would not be to say "Real Porsches" but "air cooled porsches".

i'll share his response with you guys.

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If only real Porsches are air cooled, why has the factory gone to water cooling on the new ones? Air cooling has had its day in the sun.
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Originally posted by Lawrence Coppari:
If only real Porsches are air cooled, why has the factory gone to water cooling on the new ones? Air cooling has had its day in the sun.
Porsche has been water cooling for over half of it's history... yes it has (since 1975).

i've written why they went full water cooling in the late 90s a ton of times but the main reasons are:

1) horsepower/efficiency
2) engine noise (cars could not be sold in Switzerland due to noise laws)
3) emissions (air cooled motors are notorious polluters)
4) there was no reason to stick with air cooling because the air cooled motors were outclassed in all major motorsports arenas.

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