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Turbo charge an N/a?
Is it possible to put a turbocharger on an 86' 944. If it is possible, then what kind should i get? What other stuff should I worry about when adding a turbo?
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it can be done. first, put yur 944 up on autotrader or ebay - then take the money you were going to invest on a turbo system and add it to what you got for your n/a and put it int a 951.
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oh my god, i can't believe somebody posted this and is actually SERIOUS.
dude, you just fulfilled the role of the newbie stereotype! congrats.
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Ya know, its kinda funny how everytime a new guy asks about turbocharging his n/a he gets verbally thrashed by the regulars. I just wish somebody would do it and post the results both positive and negative. That way when another sincere newbie asked about it everyone could refer them to a specific thread or discussion filled with real results and costs rather than thread after thread of blah, blah, blah, sell, blah, n/a, blah, buy, blah, 951.
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Yea Wolf I think it'd be nice if someone did it too, but that's a pretty expensive project just to be able to refer someone to real data.
Why not contact Callaway? They did it in the 80s.. Hey if someone wants to donate me the money, I have lots of time I'll give fitting the turbo a go:-D |
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There a guy on rennlist goes by nine-44 named Andy. He's done it. Looks real good too. Anything is possible given the right circumstances.
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See now that wasn't so hard... 
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09-20-2003, 09:45 PM
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actually SoCal had the perfect conversion a while back.
jack up your radiator cap and install a 951 under it
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I'm gunna buy a 951 and make it an N/A......
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well of course it's possible; that's not the point. the point is
1) it costs more to do than to just buy a very nice 951 in the first place 2) a new poster comes along every month or so, and one of their first posts is always either "how can I turbocharge my NA?" or "how can I get more power out of my 944?" of course the poor, hapless newbie has no idea what he's bringing upon himself when he posts one of these topics, but when you've seen this happen a million or so times, it gets pretty funny.
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Damn, im 16 and i just started getting into the porsche stuff. Yes i am a newbie, but the thing is, where can i find a 944 Turbo with 53,000 miles on it? Thats how much my N/A has and if i did find one with that low milage, it will probally be cheaper to buy a turbo.
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I've got enough money for the turbo, I just didnt want to buy it and be like WTF, i need something more. http://www.lindseyracing.com/turbo944.htm <--- Look at that. If it cant be done, then why are these guys selling turbos? If it can be done, then im gonna do it.
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16 years old? Improve the driver before more adding any turbochargers and whatnot...
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Rock, Lindsey's turbos are more for the 951 owner who has started modifying his car. The turbo requires a LOT of extra plumbing. His stuff isn't intended for conversions from n/a to turbo, necessarily. There would be a lot of little things you'd need like intake, intercooler, etc.
CJ's points are true, and you walked right into it. Basically, the time and effort to convert an n/a to turbo isn't worth it, in most cases. I just had to pitch in that it CAN be done, but 99% of the time, you're better off enjoying an n/a 944 as it was built. There is nothing wrong with the n/a cars at all. Don't get the idea a 944 has to have a turbo to be respectable. The downside to driving a 944 at age 16 is, for the rest of your life you will be judging cars to a standard for handling that very few will be able to approach. Welcome to the board, BTW.
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Oh, thanks for the info Sid
 . Maybe i should just sell my 944 to turbocharge my bicycle...
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Cool your jets. The old guys here have this real tender spot about converting an NA over to a turbo. As you have read and seen, the conversion can be done, but when you factor in the cost of parts, and the amount of work that needs to be done, buying a turbo can be much more cost effective than converting an NA. Having said that, and realizing that you are new to Porsche, I would recommend that you keep your NA and use it as a stepping stone towards a turbo. From a mechanical stand point, get your NA to the point that it is running well and is reliable. You will learn some of the how's and why's concerning the engine, engine management, drive train and suspension. Don't blow a ton of cash on performance mods. The small gains are not worth it (IMHO). However, I would invest in a round throttle cam (also called a "performance throttle cam"). This cam will take some of the "softness" out of the throttle. Keep in mind that the goal here is to get the car to the point where you do more driving than wrenching. While you are getting the car sorted out, join your local PCA chapter and attend the meetings. You will no doubt meet some cool folks. Seek out other 944 owners and pick their brains. Once you have the car sorted out mechanically you can start learning how to drive the car on the track by attending DE, or Driver Education events. The point here is to learn the fine points of performance driving in a controlled environment. At some point during this learning process your driving skills should reach a point where you have out-grown your NA. This is the point where you should start looking for a different car. I know this sounds like a lot to go through, but trust me, the pay off is worth the effort, and as young as you are, you have nothing but time, so invest it wisely. Oh, BTW: Welcome to the world of "water pumpers"!
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