924S with a V8 in it

friendlyguy64 · 11-02-2004, 07:38 AM

I found a website that would put a V8 in my car.Would anyone recommend this?How fast do you think it would be.I know having a v8 would be less expensive than having the original motor that came with the car.Any thoughts?

Rmills944 · 08:36 AM

Kelly Moss Racing has a 944 with a 928 V8 putting out over 700Hp. Awesome car, but took a ton of work. The tranny is what you have to watch for. At least use a turbo tranny.
www.kellymoss.com/
click on parts, then at the top race-dept, then the 944GTR project.

bigyagi · bigyagi's Garage

this sounds like renegade hybrids! i looked at their web page a while ago, and they can supply all the parts you need, if you intend to do the change yourself. someone posted their 0-60, and 1/4 mile times, with a 5.7 chevy engine, and i think it was 4.35 secs for 60, and 13.2 for the 1/4, with a standard engine, no mods.
i'm not sure, but i get the impression, that cooling the beast is a massive problem, but it sounds like a great project. v8 torque, ultra smooth engine, and tons of power! what a sleeper!!
bob.

fast924S · fast924S's Garage

Yea and if you read some of Renegade hybrids info, the show that it doesnt mess with the ebalance of the car too much I think its like a 2% difference. As fun as it sounds I could never put a american engine in my baby

dmsog · 11-02-2004, 03:53 PM

see:

http://www.560sec.com/bulletinboard

Doug
(Dared to be different)

fast924S · fast924S's Garage

ok ok putting a V8 in a 944/924 would be damn sweeet 0-60 on lik 5.4 secs with a 400hp V8, its goota be fun

Zlatko · 11-03-2004, 12:03 AM

I wouldnt suggest wasting your time..

just get a kitcar..they weigh less..handle better..better frame..NEW components..

www.factoryfive.com

And the prices are unbelievable. Get a brand new crate motot from jegs or some other company, stick it into one of these nice cars..and you're set. Low weight..big power and amazing handling..it has 3/3 where as the 924 has 1.5/3

flangermog · flangermog's Garage

The whole point about these cars is that while the 924 may be woefully underpowered it is one of the best handling cars on the road - even by todays standards. If you put a great lump like a chevy V8 in it you do not get the 50/50 weight distribution and your car will handle like a boat! Great in a straight line I'm sure but you'll have to rebuild most of the car so it doesn't pull itself to bits. I mean really- you might as well make it into a drag racer and put a parachute in the back too!

Fast924S shame on you - your sig even says "power is nothing without control"!!!! Too many hot rod programs on Discovery Home & Leisure methinks...

dmsog · 11-03-2004, 02:27 AM

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the 50/50 weight distribution and your car will handle like a boat!

...and what actual facts do you base this knowledge on? Have you driven a V8 car, or ridden in one?

Doug

flangermog · flangermog's Garage

Please Doug, don't insult your own intelligence. Ever sat on a see-saw with a huge person on one side and a tiny person on the other? It's first grade physics!

I have driven many V8's some fantastic, some not so great, One of them was a porsche!!

My point was that the car is not designed for a V8 so if you want to keep the handling you're gonna have to balance that V8 by sticking a whole load of extra weight in the back. Calculating and adjusting suspension geometry, not to mention adjustments to the transmission and chassis strengthening to cope with the extra weight and power.

Now if you want to spend bucket loads of $$$s doing that then thats up to you of course, but I see it as a huge waste of time, money and effort when you consider that Porsche have already done this.

Go buy a 928!

TCMdocs944 · 11-03-2004, 10:25 AM

Or, buy an early 924.

You can pick it up for a song, ditch the engine and mod away. You would have several upgrades to do but only if you were looking to get turn capability too.

Zero10 · 11-03-2004, 12:39 PM

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just get a kitcar..they weigh less..handle better..better frame..NEW components..

www.factoryfive.com

I've driven one of those with a blown 302 in it, it was like a go-kart on steroids!!! It was fully race prepped too, it was such a blast to drive. I can't recall the quarter mile time, but it was bloody fast.

dmsog · 11-03-2004, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by flangermog

My point was that the car is not designed for a V8 so if you want to keep the handling you're gonna have to balance that V8 by sticking a whole load of extra weight in the back. Calculating and adjusting suspension geometry, not to mention adjustments to the transmission and chassis strengthening to cope with the extra weight and power.

Now if you want to spend bucket loads of $$$s doing that then thats up to you of course, but I see it as a huge waste of time, money and effort when you consider that Porsche have already done this.

Go buy a 928! [/B]

...I can't help but wonder how those who haven't done a conversion of this type can possibly be so much more well informed than those of us who have. All of your concerns are internet myth, perpetuated by people that aren't smart enough to realize that this conversion can be done successfully using the right combination of parts and much forethought. I get the impression that you think you're talking with a V8 wannabe; that's not the case. My car is completed, handles well, runs cool, goes like stink and I have only slightly more money in it than a really nice 951 goes for....plus I don't have to motor down the road waiting for the timing belt to take a dump or #2 rod to poke itself out.
I've recently had this car to two local PCA events and received nothing but enthusiastic, positive comments both times and I was astounded when two members asked me if I'd consider doing a conversion on their cars.
There is in excess of 150 V8/944 cars out there, and many of the owners are online. The difference between them and myself is that they're happy reading all of the provided misinformation and laughing their asses off without replying; whereas I just can't help jumping into the fray.
My project is hardly "a huge waste of time, money and effort"....just as Carroll Shelby's wasn't when he installed a 289 in an AC car. To me, a huge waste of time, money and effort is the typical 944/951 scenario where a person buys a car, and after two years or so of paying for routine maintenance and repairs notices he's got a 10k car that he can't sell for 6.

Doug

ERAU944 · ERAU944's Garage

while i do agree with doug, the weight difference is minimal, i feel that when you put the V8 in, you cease to own a porsche. in the end it's your car to customize!

Rmills944 · 11-03-2004, 01:52 PM

If you use a 928 v8, then it's still a Porsche - maybe not how it came from the factory, but it's a Porsche all the way.

952 · 11-03-2004, 01:58 PM

Agreed, its no longer a Porsche unless it was a 928 engine...

Now that would be cool

952 · 11-03-2004, 02:03 PM

lol great minds...

There is a great site with guys who have modded 944's with V8's etc... for the most part they are the biggest knobs I have ever encountered. There are a number of very funny threads about their "kills" and its soooo funny. I will try find it... every once and a while a thread gets posted on Rennlist so that we may mock them.

dmsog · 11-03-2004, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by 952
lol great minds...

There is a great site with guys who have modded 944's with V8's etc... for the most part they are the biggest knobs I have ever encountered. There are a number of very funny threads about their "kills" and its soooo funny. I will try find it... every once and a while a thread gets posted on Rennlist so that we may mock them.

No need to search for it...it belongs to me.

The Porsche Hybrids Board
http://www.560sec.com/bulletinboard

You're invited to read, but not to post. Sorry, we have no group buys going on for valve stem caps at this time.

Doug
Head Knob (whatever that is, I hope it's complimentary)

scottmandue · 11-03-2004, 02:24 PM

I don't have the numbers to prove it but it has been said the chevy V8 weighs 150 lbs more than the 2.5...

Just sayin.

952 · 11-03-2004, 02:59 PM

Awww and how are you going to stop me posting exactly? lol

There have been so many Rennlisters banned from that site its almost a right of passage. I dont need valve stems caps, I already have tequipment ones. Thanks for the offer though, if I hear of anyone thats looking I will point them in your direction.

No, knob is not a compliment. Fitting you crowned yourself head knob though...