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jeez, what now?

well, its been only 4 days since my last repair was done, and now i have another to attend to. just as i'm approaching home, i push the clutch in, and it does not come fully back up ? its about halfway up its travel. it still releases, but catches really close up to the firewall . is this just an adjustment required, or is it something darker??
i recently measured the actuating arm, and its at 25mm.
any idea's ??
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Air in the system, maybe a broken slave cyl?
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yes, that probably sounds about right. i think i have replaced 2 of them , in the last 4 years. last time, the master let go, and as i put my foot on the clutch pedal, it slipped off , because of the leak!! did not have the "broken leg" effect either time, so i was kinda stumped at first.
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I've seen this kind of post a number of times... the car's owner replaces the master or slave cyllinder only to see the other one go in a short amount of time.

It's probably the slave.
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just tried bleeding the slave cylinder, and some bubbles came out initially, then pure fluid. the pedal still stays about halfway up, and "catches" about 2 inchs from the firewall. i guess the slave has failed internally. if it was full of fluid, and at pressure, it would hold as normal. i looked at all the hoses, and they seemed fine.
ah well, back to the garage! guess i should just take my pants down, and lay over the desk! after being on a 32 hour week, for the last 6 months, i'm finally getting some hours, and have no time to work on the car, so i will have to bite the bullet yet again.
thanks for the input!
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i came around to replacing the master and slave in my car... 3 hours from start to finish, and about $130 CDN worth of brand new parts (new master, new slave)...

I'd say that's a pretty cheap repair, considering other things on this car.
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Yeah, you popped a slave again.

NOS cylinders - the fluid is probably pusing past the seal.

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hi AF ! the joys of wrenching on your car, especially on a long weekend, when the weather is perfect too!
well, i took off the slave cylinder, and no sign of leakage past the seals? i also took off the master, and no fluid in the rubber boot, or again, no sign of any leak???
what i did notice, is that as i was under the dash, it was extremely easy to move the clutch pedal all the way in, using my hand. almost like there was no fluid at all. i did this before i started to remove both cylinders. the hose from reservoir to master is perfect, as is the combo rubber/steel pipe going to the slave? i was hoping to see something obvious, but apparently not! anyhoo, will get my new cylinders, and install, bleed whole system, and go from there.
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AF. i should have mentioned that just before the pedal started playing up, i did notice that the "feel" of the pedal pessure seemed to increase by a marked amount, then it went limp!! {the pedal, right!}
not sure how to interpret this?
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Your cylinders seem to be going bad. Make sure that the line from master to slave is undamaged, and that the rubber parts are not swollen closed.

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thanks for all the info AF. i really appreciate your thoughts.
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