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i'm with nynor on this one...
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well then how does my car go from running but dme relay goes out, to hardly running then not running at all. on top of that he egged my friends car at 11pm yesterday. my gauge gauge jumps, usually 2mm ish now and then, i have a 1/4 tank more fluid in there then i had before.
before : gas gauge was below 1/4 tank line, now its almost to the half. hopefully i can find a witness of him doing this so i can mail him a bill. cause think of it, i started my car when i got back at 6, ran great for maybe 20 seconds, then idle was bogging, i had to floor it to keep an idle and it was spurting black smoke, my belts are all fine, if the dme relay failed the car wouldnt not have even moved, i know the fuel pump was running i could hear it, i just have a feeling it was pumping diluted gas. im angry, i know this all sounds unreal and im being paranoid but trust me, this kid has got it in for me. |
*raspy voice*
hey boss... you think we should be payin' him a little visit? teach him the meaning of the word 'respect'? |
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now i just gotta figure out what to do. damn kids. |
if you are worried about it, find a way to either sleep in the car or have it moved to your house. You'll be better able to figure out what's wrong with it and you won't have to worry about damn kids.
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get 3 or 4 buddies together and push the car..
*not* by the rubber spoiler!!! |
I had similar symptoms.
I noticed in your photo that your vaccuum lines to the throttle body are reversed. The front angled nipple on the TB goes ONLY to the angled nipple on the thermal vaccuum switch under the intake between runners 3 & 4. Your photo shows this nipple on the TB connected to a tee. The rear straight nipple on the TB goes to a tee and from there to the FPR, FPD and the EVAP CVII. This means no manifold vaccuum to the FPR resulting in fuel pressure that is too high. The condition you describe is made worse with an old/failing FPR. Mine was just a bad FPR. If this does not help, try disconnecting and plugging the 10mm vaccuum from the EVAP CVII. If that helps, you have a bad diaphragm in the EVAP CVII or ON/OFF valve. |
what are you doing sunday, philly?
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btw, i did get my car pushed into a gated parking lot (surrounded by 12 foot walls) and got it locked, last night around 10, took me and 2 buddies.
but yes, as paranoid as this sounds im speaking realistically, i dont know why this kid hates me but whatever you know its comin out of his pocket. i think i just might be able to blame the need of a full rebuild on this... (ex: no fuel, starved engine, piston rings are fried, etc. you followin me here?) i wouldnt be suprised if this roughened up the internals a bit anyways... and nynor - i have no plans sunday but am still thinking about what to do, my friend said if my tank isnt that full just fill it with some premium and put some octane booster in there, but either way, diluted gas wont be good for your car no matter what way it comes. im still so peeved about this. oh ya and onZedge - im having a hard time following what your saying, i didnt post a pic of my lnes yet but am going to next time im at home just to make sure nothing is switched around you know? that will probably be late tonite or early tomorrow |
do you think he put water in there? i would be looking for sand or sugar at the fuel cap area, if i really thought someone had mess with my fuel.
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Well, regardless of what he put in there (if anything at all), it's best to drain the fuel and look at it. If there is water in there, it will show up in the bucket you drain into. Take a hose and syphon (sp?) the gas into a large bucket and see what you are looking at before you pull the tank to drain it. Of course you can always use a pump to drain it as well. Decide what to do after you take a look at the gas. I agree with Nynor though...if I was going to mess with someones gas...it would be sugar or sand. Maybe time to order a locking gas cap.
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Just pull the fuel line off the bottom of the tank. A lot easier than droping the tank or pumping it out.
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You can slap me for this if you like, but are you sure the fuel filter's not on backwards?
P.S. Had my car egged years ago while parked in front of a girlfriend's place. Made me absolutley livid!! Her school friends hated me because of the car... I know how you feel. |
GOD!!!! as if **** wasnt bad enough already, all 4 tires are now flat. car has well over 20 eggs on it. it was pushed into a locked parking lot and everything, 12 ft brick walls and a gate, there is a gap under the gate when its closed (large gap) i think thats how he got in... anyways hes off now with my inner valve stems.
on another note, the area were it is sitting is being watched by a camera. i just talked to the school cop and filled out a report, hes gonna see if he can get anything from the past few days and let me know. <B>pokey</B> - i think i might try and pull that hose off the bottom of the tank to let the gas drain out, is this hose gonna come out easy or is this another "oh man its gonna break" right as it comes off sort of thing? i was gonna syphon it out but thought it would be best if i could drain the tank from the bottom. i checked around the gas cap and saw what looks like dirt, sort of alot of it so i think thats what im looking at here. i guess i might want to get new valve stems and inflate my tires first.. think of those poor side walls. my life could be a sitcom i swear. [edit] razorback - yes, a locking gas cap seems like an awesome investment right about now. that might be the next thing i buy.. next to valve stems. |
Sorry man. That ****ing sucks ass. Sorry the kid in the F(ag) bodies is such well a fag. He's just jealous that his car doesn't look as good, go around a corner or get 25+mpg.
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Yeah. Still sucks. I'm sorry to hear about all this. Why can't people just hate each other in peace insted of ****ing with their cars.
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Is your tail pipe clear?
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Pull the hose off the fuel pump end, so you can direct where the gas goes. It should come off pretty easily, but if it does crack or rip, no big loss, it's just cheap fuel hose from your local auto parts store.
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wow i didnt think of the tail pipe idea, ill check that today.
im thinking pokeys idea on draining the tank will be the best way to go about draining it without removing the tank. still no word about if this was all on video or not. |
I hope they nail that cocksucker to the wall.
Didn't most of these engine trouble start after this happened? Might be time for a new engine with someone else footing the bill :) Hmm, 3 liter? |
PhillysMostWntd - sorry about the confusion on the vacuum lines. That was a picture of Razorback1980's engine, not yours. Let me re-phrase that reply...
HEY Razorback1980 - YOUR VACUUM LINES ARE REVERSED. |
try to set up your own camera... you could even put it in the car somewhere... or in a car nearby watching your car..
a laptop, and a webcamera with a program that takes snapshots whenever it senses movement would be ideal. ANY idea why this kid would go through the trouble of doing all of this? is it your car specifically? |
pkt1213 - yes, i was thinking the same thing.. now to answer everyone's question "how do you turbo a n/a?" well, simple, you wait for someone to screw with your car then nail them with a ridiculous bill
Eldorado - i think i might just wait there one night for him if this nonsense doesnt stop, he has been messing with me and a friend of mine, the two of them got in a fight today so they are gone for a few days... i hope he doesnt mess with my car will all this spare time hes having. i was thinking about sitting in my car waiting for him with a camera... and a tire iron. so possible damages do you think could have happened as my car ran for maybe 30 ish seconds on something other then gas? oh.. and be creative. ;) |
Yeah. Wait to use the tire iron until after he's paid to fix it. Haha.
If you do get evidance that he messed with it and ****ed it up I have a feeling that he'll be driving a pinto while his parents sell his Z28 to pay for your car getting fixed. Well that would have happened to me after my dad beat my ass until I couldn't move. Make sure you quote them Porsche price for all the parts and then go from there. Haha. I hope you get that prick. |
catching him will be even more satisfying than seeing someone blaze by you on the highway doing a billion mph, and then 5 mins up the road seeing them pulled over..
it's all about karma :D |
ya i plan on fixing ever possible thing that can be fixed on my engine, and suspension with genuine porsche factory parts... why go aftermarket or knock-off when your not paying for it right??
im feeling for some M030 suspension and koni yellows all around. you know, since thats what came with the car to begin with. maybe some aftermarket parts.. MAF, euro pistons, euro dme.. yeah this could end up being nice. |
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ya thats true but im trying to stay optimistic.
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Anything come of this?
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the video was not clear enough, when its at the bottom of the parking lot in the day time he said he couldn't see anything happen to it (i watched it as well, couldnt see anything) and while it was parking in the gated parking lot at night the camera couldnt pick anything up because it was too dark, he said he saw a car pull in but the headlights blinded the camera and made it so you couldnt even see what kind of car it is let alone the license plate.
ive been thinking about what to do for the last few days. hopefully i get my tank drained tomorrow. any suggestions on what to do? it still kills me to think that he might get away with this, i think i might take some pics of the remaining egg smears and post them you give you guys a feel of what happened, on top of everything else, there is a line of big white drops going across my hood (looks like a milk shake) hmm i wonder who it is this time.. this kid just wont stop. |
i am a huge advocate of violence, in these cases.
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Do you have a paint ball gun? Did you know they make CS tear gas paint balls. :-)
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Wheere can you get those?
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God. I don't remember. I was just thinking when I saw them, if I were more of an ******* I'd buy some and drop a handful into each hopper when I play. Also if I were a celebrity I'd carry some around.
Off the top of my head though I can't think of where I saw em. I'll post it if I find em or remember. |
Unless you catch him in the act (on video) or catch him bragging to some of his friends, I doubt you get anything out of this deal. You have a busted up car that you can't properly diagnose because it's not in your driveway. You seriously should have found a way to tow the car to your house weeks ago. I feel for ya, but you gotta get the car out of there while your glass is at least in one piece.
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Exactly what I was thinking, Bryan.
Why didn't you have the car towed home right when you had engine trouble in the parking lot? I'd NEVER let my car sit anywhere, especially if someone was "out to get me". And ****, if you're so sure it's him, why not just kick his ass and be done with it? From what I've been reading, it doesn't sound like you have a good chance of getting any money out of him, unless he fesses up or tells the whole school about it. I say get the car towed home, beat his ass something fierce, and fix your car. Sometimes man, **** happens. My car got hit twice, one was a hit and run, and in both instances, I didn't get ****. I got shafted each time. If I EVER find that guy...Point is man, sometimes bad things happen to good people. Let us know how it turns out. |
ya reason why i didnt get it towed to my house because he is a small kid, i easily have 70 lbs on him (and in no way am i fat) and i figured he would know what would happen from this.
anyways.. i know my rings are completly chewed up from being so old, every time i pull my plugs for a tune up they have oil all over them from oil blow-by. i just dont know what to do. i got the tank drained, eggs cleaned off, and the tires inflated. i thought after draining the tank the car would start. it started and idles crappily at 800 maybe for 1 min then died, and now it just wont start. i dont know what the problem is. i dont know where to look, just when im starting it smoke comes from the back of the engine bay and if it does start and run (only did for 1-3 min) it smokes REALLY bad. i have no idea what to do with it know, i didnt have it towed to my house either because i have a 3 hour block autoshop class and i figured id just continue to toy with it there. thats where i fixed the vacuum lines and such before. the day i got my car fixed 2 weeks ago i only drove it maybe 250 feet and it never left that parking lot, it peeves me so bad because it was working again then, then this bastard comes around and puts it back down. anyways, ive decided on what im going to do, details are not going to be discussed publicly. for sure its him though, he has admitted to spitting on his window but nothing else, i told the cop all this and you know for certain its him but there just isnt any evidence. anyways.. this week should be a better one (aside from a non running car) |
wow what a break through.. k i dont know if your all gonna love this as much as i am, but i have a myspace account (ya i know its kinda lame but they have awesome car forums on there) just looking through because this kids friend has been trying to talk to me, on his website thing there was a whole conversation between him and this kid in west jordan, and bam, he admitted the whole thing i cant copy and paste exactly how it is but ill type for you the thing that will be his down fall:
him talking to his friend (word for word) : Him: "yo what up man? hey u know that kid that's been ****ing with my car!!!!! well the ****er egged my car this weekend and so what i did to get back at him i went and stole the guys from all his tires then egged the **** out of it!!!! then i went to school and kicked his ass" now let me explain a few things to get everyone on the same page, my friend's car got egged the same night mine got spit on and my gas tank issue, and him being a little more edgy with his anger he just drove over to his house and egged his car. the next day at school they got in a fight. my friend knocked him down with the first hit btw. it was quite a sight, this kid is maybe a foot and a half taller then my friend and he went down like a board. it still makes me laugh. so i printed off the conversation, next to their messages it has a picture of the person and even a date and time the message was wrote.. so im next to certain this will seal the case, i dont know what more evidence is needed other then a confession basically, i mean the pieces all fit right? so hopefully tomorrow i can get some justice and send him a nice little bill. wow what a day.. |
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