ICE ** It's AWESOME!

[Icey1174]

My father has always been CRAZY about a car's finish. My whole life he would search high and low for the best waxes. He would always have a mystery jug of something in the garage with no label. It was always the best stuff I have ever seen. The colors changed over the years but it was ALWAYS great stuff, what ever it was.

The other day I saw this commercial on TV for Turtle Wax "Ice." Looked good and since my parents moved a couple states away I don't have access to the mystery wax anymore. So while I was at the store buying it, actually just picked it off the shelf and had it in my hand, my father called me. He called to tell me about this stuff I was buying.

The store only had the polish and was sold out of the clay bar. My father used the clay bar first then the polish. He now claims this stuff to be the best stuff he ever used. He was waxing everyones car.

I used the polish on my car. It took about 10 minutes total. The car looks AWESOME! I cannot believe the difference! I have buffed the car, used my orbital, everything, and this blows it away!

I'm not big on product promotion, but I think anyone that uses this will love it. The bottle cost $17 plus tax. By the looks of what I used today I should get at least 20 or 30 polishes out of one bottle. It doesn't even look like I used any of it. No more white on the black trim either.

Check out the links for more info! Give some feedback too. Hopefully this is a post with a lot of positive results instead of the typical broken down car syndrome!

Liquid Ice Clay Bar:
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,4

Liquid Ice Polish:
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,1

Keep those P-car looking HOT!

[Blondie]

My buddy has a '66 rambler and swears by this stuff..wants me to try it out. Now i think i will lol

[Icey1174]

I never heard of it till yesterday. All my new cars get a paint sealer buffed on at the dealer before I take them home so they always look great. This is the only one I have to wax/polish. I only put one application on and I didn't use the clay bar yet. I'm getting the clay bar tomorrow.

How's the car running Blondie????

[bholmes]

Any pics of the polished machine John?

[Icey1174]

No... one of the girls STILL has my cam! It is truly a mirror finish. I need to get it back and get some pics up here... You'll love the stuff Brian!

[bholmes]

I'll get my a can when I get waxable paint! lol. Right now it's butchered from there the PO buffed through the clear coat.

[Icey1174]

try it... I bet it will shine it up! You could use it on your other cars too. lol

[Dave L]

I have always used the meguires 3 step system and was always pleased. I first claybar'ed my cars and was really happy. The surface is as smooth as glass after the clay. I might have to look into the ice

[EMBPilot]

i'll definitely try this. whats a clay bar??? never heard of using one before....

[Icey1174]

This is the first I heard of clay bar. Maybe I have been living under my rock too long!

[Icey1174]

I think clay bar is actually clay in the solution. Read the link for more info. I don't know much about it. My father said it's like a water clay solution. Real fine kind of a polish I think. He said it really brought the shine out in a couple older cars with minimal effort. I think he said he used his orbital for the Clay Bar Ice. The Ice Polish is like water. Very thin. He and I used the pad they give you in the package.

[ilikemy944]

I love ice! Its so easy to get the car sideways.
We had a huge parking lot at work and yaay drift

[jezza944]

Hey John, I read your post earlier today, went to my local auto shop and got a bottle. My ride was very clean and not faded, but in about 20 minutes and less than a cap full of "ICE" it looks the best. It is expensive here in Oz, $40 plus tax, but worth every cent. What also is impressive, is all the black trim, rubbers etc all look great too. Thanks mate!

[Icey1174]

Hey that's awesome that you love that stuff as much as I do! Now I'm glad I posted about it. My car is white, but I think this stuff would be best on black or darker color cars. My car looks great with it, but I think the darks cars would be a mirror with this stuff. Sometimes the darker color cars can get those oil markes or smear marks in them. You have to rub forever to get them out.

Nice to have a 100% positive post on here for a change!

Hey Brad, if you wanna see ICE like that then come to Buffalo in January!

[deekay911]

The clay bar is, I assume, like the Lehm Clay bar you get with the Zymol kits (which all Porsche owners swear by in Europe). Although the Ice seems a lot less expensive than Zymol. I used the Lehm Clay bar on my oxidised Guards Red 911 and it brought it up like new. It was hard work thought and took some time - you have to do small areas at a time using a wetting agent. The final result did last a long time. I'm gonna try me some Ice methinks...

[Icey1174]

My father said he used the Ice Clay Bar with minimal effort on a horriablely oxidized paint job. He coudln't believe it. He said he was going to start with a rubbing compound first and then buff it out. He said that he did use his orbital with the Ice Clay Bar and that it was a quick, easy job. I am going to find the Ice Clay Bar today and do mine again. very minimal product is needed too. So the big state side price tag of $17 isn't so bad because the bottle will last so long. It also says you can use it in direct sunlight. I did mine in direct sunlight. It went on easy and came off easy and looks awesome. He also said that all the black trim cleaned up real nice with the polish.

I think "Clay Bar" is a type of product like "polish" or "wax" from what I have read. It looks like a solution with fine clay in it. Being a diemaker we use all types of "stones" the achieve different things with metal. Different coarse stones and different hardnesses achive different things and at different rates of speed. I am guessing the clay is abrasive enough, yet fine enough to easily remove the ozidation without leaving the marks of a rubbing compound.

I have not used this Ice polish intentionally on any of the trim yet. My rear spoiler was really dry and beat up on the car. I used some "Tire Wet" on it and it looks good now. I don't know if I want or should be mixing these two products. I think I am going to wait for a few more weeks and a few more car washes till I use it on the rear spoiler. The side mirrors, bumpers, and window trim will get the next application. It does say not to use it on the glass. I wonder if they mean keep it 100% off the glass or just don't coat your windshield with it?

[Aufgeladen944]

Well, you realize that Ice is only a polish, right? And that it doesn't protect your car like a wax does? Read on for my 8-step clean car process.

As far as Ice goes, I've used it. Not a bad product, really. If ease of use is a big issue, then I think it is one of the better products. Manzerna polish is good, too, but that is much more difficult to put on and off. My process is long and difficult, but I've had excellent results in it in the last several years. I detail cars during the summer, and my customers always come back to me for their car cleaning needs. Plan on a whole day, and don't plan on doing much afterwards. If you're not exhausted at the end, you didn't devote yourself fully. Go back and try again!

Here's the 8-step process:

1- Wash with car soap, starting with the least dirty parts of the car and moving on to the dirty/nasty parts last. Rinse when finished. It's not a bad idea to use two buckets. One for the not-so-dirty parts, and another for the nasty sections. You can use Dawn for washing IF AND ONLY IF you're polishing and waxing the car, and you don't do it more than twice a year. Dawn is far too abrasive to use on cars on a regular basis. You do not need to dry. When you are NOT doing this whole process, use CAR soap. It's more mild and will not remove your wax and polish.

2- MILD water/alcohol solution on entire car. This removes any old wax that was still on it. Putting polish/wax on top of old wax does nothing for your car. You do not need to dry.

3- Wash the car with car soap. Again, start with the least dirty parts and then proceed to clean the dirty parts. You'd be suprised how much more comes off when you do this the second time. I usually wash my wheels at this point, after everything else has been cleaned. I keep a "wheel sponge" around, so that my normal car sponge doesn't get dirty quickly. You need to dry this time, but you don't need to be q-tipping it.

4- Clay bar the entire car. There are a number of different products available that all do the same thing. Clay bar picks up all the fine particles that have been ingrained into your paint. You will feel the difference afterwards. When using the clay bar, make sure you spray the lubricant on (it's basically just soapy water.) If you feel the clay bar gripping, at all, you have to put more lubricant down. If you drop the clay bar, throw it out, or use it on your wheels. Do not reuse the clay bar. TIP: When you get the clay bar, cut it up into pieces. That way, if you drop one section, you don't have to throw the whole thing away. If you want, clay bar the wheels (but lastly).
I have not used the Ice clay bar. I might pick it up next time. You should only clay bar your car once or twice a year; it's very abrasive and is not good for the paint.

5- Quick re-wash of the car. This removes all the loose sediments that the clay bar removed. Also, that soapy water is still on the car. You need to dry the car really well this time. The Absorber is a fantastic investment. The Mr Clean Auto-Dry car wash works as advertised, but you'll still have to go through and dry the car at spots.

6- Polish the car. This is what brings out the shine and really sets your car off. But polish in itself is NOT a wax. Polishing the car is quite a workout; plan on a break after this. DO NOT go in circles; Karate Kid was WRONG. Go in straight motions, back and forth. You will have to buff the polish off the car's paint. Polish has it's limitations, however. It does not protect, and it also won't last if you leave it exposed. You need to do the other steps after this if you really care about your car. Ice is easy to use. Manzerna has the best effect. Both work fine. 3M has some excellent products available, as well, so any of those will work well, too.

7- Put a sealant on the car. This will protect the car and your polish, even from smaller scratches. Meguir's NXT is excellent. Easy to use, makes it very shiny, and it can be layered onto the car if you want more protection. It's also cheap, smells great, and can be bought at the local store. The sealant is an important step because it allows you to protect the polish and paint, but it also makes it easier in the long run because you can put another coat of wax on every couple of weeks. If you really wanted to, you could stop at this step and it would be okay. You will need to put on the sealant every few weeks.

8- Wax the car. This will give it that extra shine. I was sold on P21S. It's so easy to use. Also, it can be layered if you want to put more and more of it on. Zaino is excellent. I know a lot of people like Zymol, but Zymol is a cleaner wax. Some stores carry different types of Zymol, but cleaner wax isn't true "wax." I wouldn't use it if you're going all out. You could probably use it if you were just washing/waxing your vehicle and not getting all OCD about it. I also LOVE P21S. Very easy to use.

9- Use a detailing spray on the car. The Meguirs NXT Spray is very good. Also, I'd just keep this and two microfibers in the car. Everytime you wash your car (just normal washing, not this OCD-level washing), you can use the spray to make it look brand new again.

For washing, I like the mit-type sponge. It tends to hold a lot of water, and it's fibers trap dirt in and don't let it back onto the car as much as a normal sponge will. Sponges/mits are cheap, so just buy new ones each year. And like I said earlier, use two buckets.

Use a wax sponge for the polish and wax. Use separate sponges for both, and separate sponges for applying and removing. So that's a total of four wax sponges you'll need. Microfiber towels are excellent for removing wax/polish/sealant.

I hope that helps people. It's nice weather out now, so it's a good time to get out there and get your car clean.

[Aufgeladen944]

[i]I have not used this Ice polish intentionally on any of the trim yet. My rear spoiler was really dry and beat up on the car. I used some "Tire Wet" on it and it looks good now. I don't know if I want or should be mixing these two products. I think I am going to wait for a few more weeks and a few more car washes till I use it on the rear spoiler. The side mirrors, bumpers, and window trim will get the next application. It does say not to use it on the glass. I wonder if they mean keep it 100% off the glass or just don't coat your windshield with it? [/B]

You can buy stuff just for your bumper and trim. Wurth's Rubber Care is really good stuff. There's two steps I believe. "Back to Black" sucks-don't bother. Vinylex can work, too.

I have no idea what tire shine will do to the spoiler and bumper, but I'd rather not find out. That stuff is only made to make it look shiny, not actually do anything to it.

[Icey1174]

^^ good detailed info!

The stuff I used on the spoiler was "Tire Wet." It feels oily and it says it's good for anything rubber and that you can use it on trim, not just the tires. I have always liked it and it did wonders for my dried out nasty looking spoiler.

I just got the Ice Clay Bar. I'm getting ready to use it now. I have never heard of the "clay bar" process before. The Ice Clay Bar does not have a physical clay bar. It says it is "formulated with a unique 3 layer chemisrty..." I'm guessing the "3 layers" are all in the bottle and work themselves out chemically somehow. You do have to shake it to "activate the cleaning solution."

It says to risne the car off first. It says nothing of drying the car, so I'll hose it down and get to work. It says to apply by hand. This car is small enough that doing it by hand will not be a big deal. The Explorer on the other hand is tiresome work! It says that once it's applied that all you have to do is rinse it off and towel dry. It says to only do one section at a time. Not sure why, but I'll follow the directions. After it's dried it syas to apply the Ice Polish.

Well that's the plan! I'll be back!

[Aufgeladen944]

Most clay bars are...clay. They look like play doh. Your car doesn't have to be dry to do the clay bar, but you probably don't want it soaking wet, either, as the lubricant will mix with the water.

Let me know how the Ice liquid clay bar is. I have my reservations about it; having the clay itself rub into the paint seems to make the most logical sense.

My guess: it's cleaner wax. While I'm sure it will help, I don't think it will be as good as an actual clay bar.