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TNT25169 09-22-2007 11:51 AM

All Blocks the Same????
 
I can't find my PET cd and I was just curious, are the blocks for the 944 N/A the same as the Turbo blocks? If not, what is the difference?

nynor 09-22-2007 11:54 AM

year for year, yes. with the obvious exceptions for increased displacement.

fast924S 09-22-2007 12:08 PM

NO all blocks are NOT the same, If you look at a bare block they have different tolerance bores 0, 1 and 2. If you remove the head you will see the number stamped on the deck along with a stamp on each piston. SO you could get 2 blocks from a 87 944 and the pistons might not fit correctly if you swap them. Thats the only major difference I know of, Other then that same design

TNT25169 09-22-2007 12:17 PM

The only reason I'm asking is that I have 3 N/A motors and a customer looking for a turbo block to build a race motor. If it's the same block I can sell him one of mine.

nynor 09-22-2007 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast924S (Post 3492900)
NO all blocks are NOT the same, If you look at a bare block they have different tolerance bores 0, 1 and 2. If you remove the head you will see the number stamped on the deck along with a stamp on each piston. SO you could get 2 blocks from a 87 944 and the pistons might not fit correctly if you swap them. Thats the only major difference I know of, Other then that same design

that is interesting. what does that mean? my friend's 944 had two's stamped on his block.

fast924S 09-22-2007 03:48 PM

That means he needs tollerance group 2 pistons

nynor 09-22-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast924S (Post 3493156)
That means he needs tollerance group 2 pistons

i gathered that ;) can you be a bit more specific?

fast924S 09-22-2007 04:07 PM

OK,LOL I tried to see if there is anytmore threads on pelican about the groups but everythime I try and search my web browser crashes.

So anyway I dont know the measurements/specs for the groups, I know their is a 0,1,2, 0 being the tightest and 2 being the bigdest. Tol. group 2 will not fit in tol. group 0 or 1. 0 wont fit in 1 or 2 , ring gaps will be incorrect and so will piston clearances. So If the blocks marked 2 you need to find pistons that are also marked 2, unless your doing a aftermarket rebuild then you would give dia. measurments.


Here is a bad pic of my block marked 1
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190506002.jpg

Here is the mark on the piston, again cell pic

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190506027.jpg

fast924S 09-22-2007 04:13 PM

Here is info from shop manual

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190506381.jpg

TNT25169 09-22-2007 04:19 PM

I learned something new today. But as far as bare blocks go, the turbo and N/A blocks are the same and using a N/A block to build a turbo motor with after market pistons and such won't cause any problems?

nynor 09-22-2007 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNT25169 (Post 3493204)
I learned something new today. But as far as bare blocks go, the turbo and N/A blocks are the same and using a N/A block to build a turbo motor with after market pistons and such won't cause any problems?

exactly.


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