Castrol "Edge". Claims to have 8X the protection of Mobile 1! Is that a boxter?

[wild man]

Just saw the TV ad for it again, this time remembering what the trade name was. I'm thinking it was a boxter featured in the ad (correct me if I'm wrong).

It might still be too early to ask, but could that claim really be true?

And if so, will that make converts out of all of the fairly large number of mobile 1 fanatics out there (I do NOT happen to be one - not really a castrol fan either though)?

Final question (other than, how much does it cost?): What is the concentration of ZDDP in it?

If over 400ppm of ZDDP, AND available in extreme-spread viscosities, such as 5W-50, or preferably 0W-60, I would consider trying it as a year round street use oil (with some lucas oil stabilizer added, as castrol is NOT known for holding out for thousands of miles, in terms of breakdown.

[running_cold924]

I'll take castrol any day over mobil 1...

[zedsn]

I put mobil 1 in my 951s and the front main seal started to seep so I drained it and refilled with conventional 20/50 and haven't had a problem since and it has been 2 years now.

[HondaDustR]

The consensus is our cars need alot more ZDDP than that for optimum life, more like 1200ppm. That rules out any oil marked as API SM and most marked SL, because those levels are regulated and the max allowed for SM is something like 600ppm. It's probably a good oil, but I usually prefer not to believe any marketing, since they can pretty much say whatever they want, and nothing is going to convince me it's a good idea to leave oil in longer than 5 or maybe 7k miles. Oil anayses have shown that Mobil 1 extended performance is pretty much just loaded up with detergents and acid neutralizers, but that's not to say the rest of it will stand up to extreme heat conditions for the full 15k miles no problem.

It's also certainly expensive enough, but good type IV or V synthetics cost money (don't know what type the castrol is). Marketing BS aside, I would certainly choose it over Mobil1, but probably not for my car, being an SM oil.

[porsche4life]

I run castrol dyne oil with no problems. Ran castrol synth in my Corrado with good luck.

[bebbetufs]

According to this report from Blackstone Labs it looks like the ZDDP scare may have made us freak out too soon, too far.

[wild man]

Originally Posted by bebbetufs

According to this report from Blackstone Labs it looks like the ZDDP scare may have made us freak out too soon, too far.

I haven't read it, but then I'm not one of those people who needs to. If it has 600, or close to it, that's acceptable to me. What I need is a high hot weight # (minimum 50, preferrably 60) , combined with a low "W" #, like 5 or less.

I know it would need to be synthetic, but are weights such as 5W-60, or (this might be a stretch) 0W-60 possible to acquire? I have come to the belief that oils such as the 20W-50 prad penn that I currently run simply suck, in climates that get as cold as it does where I live. And I hope this doesn't sound snooty, but with the low miles that I put on the car, I don't feel that I should be hassled with changing back an forth twice a year.

[wild man]

Oh, I forgot: How come no one can confirm if was a boxter in the commercial or not?

Nobody else see it but me??

Or nobody else give a damn???

[running_cold924]

factory BMW oil for the M cars is 10w-60 castrol...like $11 a quart

[Aufgeladen944]

Lucas oil stabilizer is bad news. Avoid that stuff.

Ever use the little displays at Advance (or Autozone?) It's way thick, and there's air all up in there. Air = no lubrication.

And this is turning into a which oil is best debate...I just use Brad Penn 20w50. If I was driving in the winter, I'd run 10w40. But my car is strictly spring/summer/fall, and that's all I need.

[wild man]

Originally Posted by Aufgeladen944

Lucas oil stabilizer is bad news. Avoid that stuff.

Ever use the little displays at Advance (or Autozone?) It's way thick, and there's air all up in there. Air = no lubrication.

And this is turning into a which oil is best debate...I just use Brad Penn 20w50. If I was driving in the winter, I'd run 10w40. But my car is strictly spring/summer/fall, and that's all I need.

I did mess with one of those things once (@ advance). Not sure what you mean about the air, but I was impressed at how the LOS made the oil stick to the gears so much better.

Not ready yet to pay $9/qt more for the 10W-60 (what I want is 5W-60, anyways), than I pay for the PB20W-50, so I guess I'll just have to put up with the extended warm-up time in cold weather.

[John_AZ]

Originally Posted by wild man

Oh, I forgot: How come no one can confirm if was a boxter in the commercial or not?

Nobody else see it but me??

Or nobody else give a damn???

OK....was this the car you refer to?

[wild man]

Not positive, but I think so, if that was the one in the commercial. I think they showed like 2 fairly quick shots of it. If that's a pic of one those shots, it does answer my question. I don't think the front end of a boxter would require any motor oil. Thanks for the reply.

Those ARE mustangs on the lifts, right?

[John_AZ]

Originally Posted by wild man

Those ARE mustangs on the lifts, right?

Not sure....Bodos hair in the way....

Castrol Edge

John

[HondaDustR]

Well, after alot of poking around, there seems to be reason to believe the ZDDP issue is not that big a deal, and there are other methods of fulfilling the same needs. Castrol syntec caught alot of flak for being a hydrocracked group III oil and claiming it was full synthetic. The edge stuff definitely has some true synthetic components in it and looks like some good stuff. It's not cheap, though, but most true synthetics aren't. One interesting thing that really makes me like it is that the test they showed on the site that was 8x better than mobil1 was a cmshaft wear test. I found some german castrol syntec 0W-30 myself and I'm happy. It's not a group III oil and alot of people say good things about it.

[dally_de]

i also use castrol edge rs 10-w60 and i am pretty happy with it...on idle oil pressure stays at 3 bar..i run it for about 4years now and i am happy with it..it isn't cheep

[pjs77]

Originally Posted by zedsn

I put mobil 1 in my 951s and the front main seal started to seep so I drained it and refilled with conventional 20/50 and haven't had a problem since and it has been 2 years now.

Same here, I am running Syntec 5w-50 and I might do that until the spring when I change out all the seals up there. The car had no leaks when i bough it and the PO gave me a quart of this 5w-50. I developed a front crank leak almost immediately when I added it. So I'm thinking I need to change the collars and the seals when I do the TB and WP so I can continue to run synthetic.

[guru944]

Even Pennzoil outperforms Castrol since 1987.

The facts are pretty clear...

You tube link: YouTube - Amsoil kicks Mobil 1

Who is the industry leader since its debut in 1972. AMSOIL
PM me directly for more Facts.

Later..