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Mono,
sounds like the relay is ok. John_AZ, That tip for using the BMW flywheel sensors is a good one. Saves $. Good on you. I had forgotten about that because we have so many used spares. Solreaver ??? The 924S has the DME relay in same exact position as an early 944. I doubt Joe average 944 owner has a noid? I'd check for spark at the end of the line- at the spark plug. Remove a plug and set it on top of the engine so that it can ground out and show a spark. That will verify your reference sensor, coil, distributor cap and rotor, plug wire,etc are all good and in one fell swoop. |
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oh man i feel your pain and just fixed mine 944, Post one of mant problems, maybe not. Turns out my tach isnt even working, Replace both sensors speed and ref sensors, without both working you will get a no start 100%. hope it helps.
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And thanks on note re covering the hole - yeah, I recall that advice and was sure remember! |
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All --Much appreciated help!! |
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You test the sensors at the connectors with a multimeter, as described at Clarks Garage: http://www.clarks-garage.com/pdf-manual/ign-02.pdf |
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When I test with the multimeter, should ignition key be turned to on? engine cranking? |
Just a quick update, anyone still listening? - Haven't had much time to work on this lately.
1) Tested for spark - none at any of the 4 wires (recall, there is fuel, though...or at least, pump is working...pump, filter, and injectors were recently replaced) 2) Also tested DME relay - replaced with new one that I had ordered as a spare...no change...replaced original after cleaning metal connections - the relay connectors seemed a bit - darkened?? with an odd burnt smell...not sure if this mattered since the new relay didn't work either. 3) Disconnected the speed and reference connectors...in great condition, physically. Tested terminals with multi-meter...With ignition turned on and using Clark's specs ("Sensor Resistance Checks"), it appears the the BG sensor (reference) was reading 1024 ohms on 25-26 terminals and a >1 M reading on 25-78 terminals. The DG sensor (speed) did not show response on the multimeter...at least not in the way I saw with the reference sensor. Have not tested ignition coil. plug wires were not replaced with recent change of plugs, cap/rotor. The wires appear to be in okay condition and were not recommended for replacement by the mechanic. Recall, also, that there is no jump on TACH on crank. |
Is there anybody...out there.
Just noid if you can hear me...
Is there anyone on the home page? No spark! boo hoo! DG not showing response on the multi meter? like open field? Short? Yea, if it is out of spec...looking like the sensor. unless power isn't getting to the coil or a dozen other things. Oh well. I DID ask about power to the positive side of the coil and if you had tried a noid we could know if the injectors were firing..... BTW a Bosh noid is like 5 bucks off of fleabay. buy a couple and give them as stocking suffers to your Porsche friends along with spare DME's . Hmmm...welll if the DG is out of spec...you know what to do. Hit it with penetrating oil to loosen hings up and get to it when you have a chance. |
Mono,
I'm still listening..........busy, but listening. Swap out that sensor with a used one. Remember both sensors are the same part. Make sure they are connected right at the wiring harness tho. If the connectors break, make a bridle for them with zip ties. Get together with other 944/924S owners in your area to pool parts/resources. Keep working on it. :) These are cool old cars....... |
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The only noid I have is one that fits into the injectors plug of the wiring harness. About the size of a quarter.
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put ur or have sumone finger on the relay if it clicks at key entry n start its bad if it clicks once its good
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http://clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/repair-procedure-index3.htm#foxtrot
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MONO,
My noid says OTC 7602 GM PFI. The spacing of the contacts matches a 944 injector plug. |
did u check the ignition switch
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Coil good, have not checked ignition switch
Recap....dme relay/fuse good, fuel filter/pump good, injectors good, have fuel, have spark, reference sensor good, speed sensor appears to be bad Just got 2 sensors in mail yesterday, and I'm ready to replace the speed sensor which seems to be the bad one according to my multimeter check....but even with a socket 10" extension, I can't reach the retaining bolt...let alone get my arm/hand down in the space to effectively guide the removal/replacement of the sensor. the sensors are located so close to the firewall and under other engine components that I'm unsure how I could access the retaining bolt without removing a whole lot of stuff to get to it. what gives? is there some unique difference between the 944 and 924S engine compartment design that makes this replacement more difficult on the 924S side? Aside from disconnecting the connector, what needs to be done to get this sensor out?? |
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