Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)
-   Porsche 924/944/968 Technical Forum (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/)
-   -   My 968 engine build (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/785415-my-968-engine-build.html)

speedysprocket 12-04-2013 05:08 PM

My 968 engine build
 
Broke the head on my 87 S, so I finally built my 968 engine for the car… What a long, tedious assembly! Pretty much stock build, all new bearing and seals, crank scraper and head has a valve job and the pockets were opened up.
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4fe2188a.jpg
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9d495bfb.jpg
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps16af88c0.jpg
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...psb7c5a4eb.jpg

alan6272 12-04-2013 05:18 PM

nice porting job did you do it?? looks great.

speedysprocket 12-04-2013 07:24 PM

No, local shop did the head work and honed the block. They specifically said it's not ported- these ports are massive as it is. They just "opened the pockets" up.

uvachief 12-05-2013 12:14 AM

That's a massive engine. Let me know if you ever want to sell it!

will944 12-05-2013 03:28 AM

Beautiful. Who did the machine work?

CHICKS 12-05-2013 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedysprocket (Post 7790343)
No, local shop did the head work and honed the block. They specifically said it's not ported- these ports are massive as it is. They just "opened the pockets" up.


How was the block honed?

CHICKS 12-05-2013 04:58 AM

Hopefully not like this: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/782248-my-16v-engine-build.html

speedysprocket 12-05-2013 05:37 AM

It was honed properly. Abacas Racing in Virginia Beach did the work; they've done some 944 race engines in the past and were knowledgable. As for selling it- sorry. Need this for my daily driver after her engine broke. Plus I doubt I could get my money back out of it...

kwikt 911 12-05-2013 02:43 PM

Did you time your own cams?

speedysprocket 12-05-2013 02:50 PM

Yes. See the third picture...

kwikt 911 12-05-2013 03:27 PM

Thanks, found your thread on the "other" site.

speedysprocket 12-05-2013 03:34 PM

Haha, no worries!

kwikt 911 12-06-2013 04:04 AM

Do you have a close up shot of the dial indicator assembly extension.

speedysprocket 12-06-2013 04:51 AM

I bought it from Harbor Freight… It's a vice grip with a long, adjustable arm that the dial attaches to. I just clamped it to the block under the head and placed the dial where I needed it and locked the arm in place.

Lear35A 12-06-2013 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikt 911 (Post 7792459)
Do you have a close up shot of the dial indicator assembly extension.

Here's a picture of my setup. I bolted a small steel plate to the block to support a magnetic base for each of the two indicators.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1386340423.jpg

flash968 12-06-2013 05:41 AM

obviously those are all shots speedy put up are BEFORE timing the cams, as the bolts that hold the exhaust cam are not in place.

there also needs to be a second mechanism for reading the relative position of the piston, as the timing marks are usually about 5-10 degrees off. i've never seen on yet that is bang on. it needs to be one such that you can rotate the engine a few times and see TDC as it comes around each time, and simultaneously read the lifter gauge.

lear's shot is correct

speedysprocket 12-06-2013 07:20 AM

I found TDC myself before even putting the head on, checked and rechecked, and made my own reference marks for it.

flash968 12-06-2013 08:13 AM

well, i suppose that essentially does some of the same thing a degree wheel would do, except for not being able to set the cam at a specific degree of opening, which would be more accurate than the tappet measurement.

the only issue then would be any variance in the piston position, which occurs as you rotate the crank. even with a mark, as you "float" over TDC, the piston moves quite a bit, which you can clearly see with a gauge. it's almost impossible to mark the crank pulley or anything that small, and get it dead on. depending on the angle of viewing, it's very easy to be off a few degrees. that's why a large degree wheel is better. but, with a gauge, you know exactly where the piston is.

when doing my build, we had to use both to get it truly right. the differences due to the design made for some pretty large changes in cam locations. this could easily have made some large changes in power, had we not have gotten it right.

the engine will run almost anywhere, and i'm reasonably sure you will be able to drive just fine. it's all about how much power you want, and where.

speedysprocket 12-06-2013 10:25 AM

And I understand that. I don't have a laboratory nor the precise instruments to make it prefect. If I'm so inclined and have the time, I may attempt to vary cam timing in the spring maybe, and see what kind of changes my G-Tech can show me.

flash968 12-06-2013 10:34 AM

yeah - it may not show up on the g-tech, but it will on the dyno.

as a note though, many shops don't time the cams. they just use the template and run with it, often just setting it in the middle of the slots. i guess they figure that it runs, and the owner will never know the difference. in most cases, they are probably right.

those of us who have been seeking every pony from the 968 do things a bit differently though.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:37 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.