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996 turbo twist 11 x 18 ET45 rear wheels... Will they fit 87 951?
I have an opportunity to buy some 8x18 ET50 fronts and 11x18 ET45 turbo twists off a 2003 996 at a ridiculously low price (under $500). Even though my '87 951 is currently in storage, I am tempted to buy these wheels.
Based on a quick search online I am pretty sure the fronts will be fine with 225/40-18's...... I cannot determine if the 11 x 18 ET45's will work. I am pretty sure it would be VERY close both inside and at the fender wells. Any one ever heard of the 11 x 18 ET45's working on an '87 951? I need to let the guy know tomorrow whether I want them or not.
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The rears will not fit, they stick out about an inch or so past the fender. They would work on an '86 though. For an 11" wheel to fit on the back you need the offset to be 60+mm.
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Thanks Techno Duck!
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I've got 17x10 Fikse wheels on the back of my 944S and the width is maxed out.
I would have stopped at 9 or 9.5 had I bought them new, but they were from a 996 race car. |
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i think that tecno duck is right.
i have a 10x18 et65 sport design on an early(86) ofset.I must fit the early 82-85/1 original rear specers because of interferention with the inside fender. So now i put a 88' turbo axles and they don't need the specers but are definitive very close to the auter fender. So to my calculation 11 wheels are maximum on this cars but you need at least 55mm of offset,probably 60 like tecno duck say
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I am running the MY02 lightweights as my street wheels and they fit fine even with the rear lowered, they are 18x11 and ET65 and its just about perfect in terms of fitment..rolling the fenders a little is a good idea regardless when going that wide. If you do get rubbing, it will occur at the 9:00-11:00 position of the fender if looking at the drivers side (and obviously the same spot on the passenger side).
![]() ![]() Its impressive the amount of wheel / tire you can stuff under the fenders of these cars with little to no work. I mean from the factory the n/a came with 15x7 rears and you can basically fit a 18x11 without any issue. My buddies almost all run WRX's and all have to do some serious fender rolling to even fit a 17x8... they all have wheel width envy .
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Dang it! If only these wheels were 65 offset..... Oh well, I had no intention of insuring and driving the car this summer anyhow. I was looking for wheels to put on an old 924S that I might dig out of storage to use as an 80 mile per day daily driver as my 318,000 mile BMW 325i is just about used up. I was going to take my perfect stock 951 wheels and put them on the 924S and replace the 951 wheels with the wider 996 wheels.
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Hey, Techno Duck-
What size tires? I too can get a slight rub when the suspension compresses, but I still have a bit of space on the inside. I didn't think another inch would work, though. Nice to see 11s fit, as long as the offset is absolutely perfect. |
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Rears are the stock sizes, 285/30/18. I was looking for a 295 or 305 tire for the rear but was not crazy about how low the profile was, would have needed to put like a 255 on the front to get the right profile match front and rear. The tires basically were rubbebands at those widths so i decided to just stick with stock size. I have Conti Extreme DW's on them now and they are pretty wide, the wheels had Hankooks on them originally and when stacked next to each other the Conti's probably had an extra 2" of width or so over the Hankooks.
Assuming a relatively tight suspension without too much squat, i dont even think you would need to roll the fenders in the back with the right offset. The only reason i rolled them was when i was running a set of Cup I replicas with less than ideal offset. The rears were 17x9 with a 47 offset if i remember right. Sat nice and flush with a 255 tire on there but when i put a 275 on i was literally shredding the sidewall off the first time i got on boost. Offset is everything.. my track wheels are CCW's, 17x10.5 and fit perfectly.
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Hey Techno, would these MY02s fit on early offset?
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Yes, but will require spacers.
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18X11 996 turbo twists will fit on an 87 951 if you are willing to be aggressive with the fender rolling.
I have them on my 90 944 Cab which is the same offset as the 87. ![]() ![]() I did get some rubbing on the track at about the 9 to 11 position as Techno Duck says. I don't get any rubbing on the street. Time for a bit more fender rolling.
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Also, what is your suspension setup? And are you running much camber? I have a set that I've been trying to sell, but the only 944 guys I can find that want them are late-offset guys. If I can help them figure out the right formula to make it work, then I might have a deal.
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The details are: 235/40 ZR 18 X 8 50et front 295/30 ZR 18 X 11 45et back Hankook Ventus V12 Evo's I am running factory suspension with factory settings. Almost no camber. Too much camber and they rub on the inside fender(at least they did on my 86 951) The right formula is just REALLY aggressive fender rolling/stretching. I could see my fender flexing out when I was doing the rolling. One bad thing about it was, I ended up cracking the paint all along the edge. I might have had better luck if I had heated the paint more. I didn't heat it much, I just did the rolling in the Phoenix summer heat. 115 F. Another thing to consider is possibly taking just a little off the inside of the mounting surface. You don't want to take off enough to weaken the wheel or mounting holes but you might be able to take a little off. |
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